Is the American Flag Next

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Quote me saying that.

"Is the American Flag Next?" - Time-Immemorial

You really are not good at this 😄

Originally posted by Q99
"Is the American Flag Next?" - Time-Immemorial

You really are not good at this 😄

Posing a statement/question for the forum is a personal opinion now? Interesting trolling. Quit taking hormones.

The answer is no dude lol.

A country needs a flag. Every country has a flag. Even with a redesign I very much doubt they would change the flag so extensively.

Yeah, obviously the answer is no. Anyone claiming otherwise is on a paranoid slippery slope acid trip. Or maybe a marijuana high...I hear that stuff's legal nowadays.

I guess Farakhan was in left field. I don't know why people say stuff like that.

Now, I could go on a long diatribe about how our evolutionary foundations make us inclined to create in-groups and out-groups, and how this began as tribes of early humans, and how we can still see vestiges of these instincts today, and how the state is yet another in-group that many use as a mask for xenophobia and entitlement, or to dehumanize those outside of it, and how a truly enlightened society would be one that continually knocks down boundaries, be they state, geography, continent, race, religion, even species, to the point where we only see sentient, feeling beings working together toward common goals, and how the deconstruction of modern symbols of patriotism could, in the long run, be a good thing toward this end.

I could say all that. But it takes us pretty far off topic, and could lend undue credence to what is little more than a hate-mongering speech in OP's video. In a perfect society, we probably would take down the American flag. But I'd want to do it for entirely different reasons, and after long, sweeping social progress that we're nowhere near at this point (and, frankly, may never be).

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Posing a statement/question for the forum is a personal opinion now? Interesting trolling. Quit taking hormones.

It's a question that you asked.

And remember, you're the one who believed the nuke thing. You've got a track record of being gullible as heck. If you're gonna say something really stupid but want to make it clear that you don't believe it, you should indicate it so, because it's not like your personal history is any indication.

Originally posted by Q99
It's a question that you asked.

And remember, you're the one who believed the nuke thing. You've got a track record of being gullible as heck. If you're gonna say something really stupid but want to make it clear that you don't believe it, you should indicate it so, because it's not like your personal history is any indication.

Again you never can quote me on anything you claim I said, You dodged the nuke thing over and over again, so I'll ask you again. Quote me saying "The US Nuked Yemen" Like you did over and over.

And you can never stay on topic. In the Iran Framework thread you off on a tangent about gay marriage.

So again you are wrong, and you can't stay on topic for longer then 2 seconds..so make more or less hormones. I dunno but quit making shit up.

Where was a gullible here? Did I make that video?

Prove that one as well, oh wait you can't so stfu.

Wait don't bother responding Q99, I figured out your a troll. Put you on ignore.

Originally posted by Digi
Now, I could go on a long diatribe about how our evolutionary foundations make us inclined to create in-groups and out-groups, and how this began as tribes of early humans, and how we can still see vestiges of these instincts today, and how the state is yet another in-group that many use as a mask for xenophobia and entitlement, or to dehumanize those outside of it, and how a truly enlightened society would be one that continually knocks down boundaries, be they state, geography, continent, race, religion, even species, to the point where we only see sentient, feeling beings working together toward common goals, and how the deconstruction of modern symbols of patriotism could, in the long run, be a good thing toward this end.

I could say all that. But it takes us pretty far off topic, and could lend undue credence to what is little more than a hate-mongering speech in OP's video. In a perfect society, we probably would take down the American flag. But I'd want to do it for entirely different reasons, and after long, sweeping social progress that we're nowhere near at this point (and, frankly, may never be).

The first part I take your word on it.

Now why in a perfect society would you want to take the US flag down?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Wait don't bother responding Q99, I figured out your a troll. Put you on ignore.

Slavery existed and thrived under Old Glory too. I think it is hypocritical to single out only the Confederate flag. The current incarnation of that flag was never flown during the Civil War anyway.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Slavery existed and thrived under Old Glory too. I think it is hypocritical to single out only the Confederate flag. The current incarnation of that flag was never flown during the Civil War anyway.

It's always been a symbol of racism, and it should not be condoned by any government, nor by companies who want to appear ethical.

Originally posted by Q99
Says the guy who thought the American flag would go the way of the confederate flag 😄

Give it time. They are already starting to take control over how we eat, speak and even how we dress ourselves.

Next they'll tell us how to drive, or who not to kill....it's political correctness gone mad!!!!

So how do you respond to the new laws passed on food regulations where "Trans-Fats" will be slowly zoned out in the next 3 years. Making BIG changes inwhat foods will actually still be around ?

State Colleges are already going so far as to ban students from saying words and even phrases on their grounds?

Or as even stated in this forum about how that one cop got fired for wearing a pair of confederate flag shorts on his own time and property?

Yeah. FREEDOM U.S. A!!!!!

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The first part I take your word on it.

Now why in a perfect society would you want to take the US flag down?

For reasons quite explicitly stated in the first paragraph of my last post.

These are all things that have precedences and reasons. Laws, rules and policies are things that change with time, to expect that the rules that were in place when you were younger will be the same rules later on is silly. Circumstances changes, and "freedom" means different things in different ages.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So how do you respond to the new laws passed on food regulations where "Trans-Fats" will be slowly zoned out in the next 3 years. Making BIG changes inwhat foods will actually still be around ?

State Colleges are already going so far as to ban students from saying words and even phrases on their grounds?

Or as even stated in this forum about how that one cop got fired for wearing a pair of confederate flag shorts on his own time and property?

Yeah. FREEDOM U.S. A!!!!! [/B]

Most employers retain the right to fire for discretionary reasons.

Obviously we could sit here and find cases of this going too far. The world is a big place, and people can be really dumb. The more difficult approach is to realize that not everything is a slippery slope, at which point rational discussions of individual stories can take place. We make progress when we recognize context. We doom ourselves with generalizations and reactionary fear.

They are already talking about taking the Jefferson memorial down and taking Alexander Hamilton of the $10..Alexander Hamilton was actually opposed to slavery and has some historic battle stories fighting side by side and leading black soldiers. Anyone who disagrees open a book.