China and Russia Vs. USA Conventional war who wins?

Started by Ionceknewu4 pages

China and Russia Vs. USA Conventional war who wins?

Who would win this match up?

No Europeans coming to the USA's rescue.

China & Russia.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
China & Russia.

I think this too, better soldiers, more fighting spirit. What do others think?

HYG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country

I don't think Air craft carriers will matter if the US try invading Russia in winter.

Originally posted by Robtard
HYG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country

Are you saying we would win?

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I don't think Air craft carriers will matter if the US try invading Russia in winter.

It would be stupid to invade Russia during winter. I think there is a saying in the Russian military along the lines of their best general being "General Winter".

I think he is, we know a land war can't be won from the sea or Air, we've seen that with so many conflicts.

The worst thing that could happen was pushing China and Russia together. Which is what Obama has done.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The worst thing that could happen was pushing China and Russia together. Which is what Obama has done.

Yes Obama needs Europe more than ever now to protect the U.S.

Especially warrior nations like the U.K. and Germany.

Originally posted by Surtur
Are you saying we would win?
Yes, America would win. If war broke out then by extension trade would cease and China would be broke in a matter of weeks from not being able to sell their cheap crap in the US.

There's also the fact that neither Russia nor China (especially when broke) really has the capacity to wage a massive war across the ocean.

So broke-ass-China and Russia succumb to the might of the US aircraft carrier. Bombs away. *boom*

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I don't think Air craft carriers will matter if the US try invading Russia in winter.

Engaging in a land war in Asia is the most famous classic blunder.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, America would win. If war broke out then by extension trade would cease and China would be broke in a matter of weeks from not being able to sell their cheap crap in the US.

There's also the fact that neither Russia nor China (especially when broke) really has the capacity to wage a massive war across the ocean.

So broke-ass-China and Russia succumb to the might of the US aircraft carrier. Bombs away. *boom*

I don't see that at all. I think it's far more likely the russians and chinese parachute in and take the U.S. I'm pretty sure this was realisticly dramatised.

I have to say I'd also favor the USA. I especially don't know if Russia and China have more "fighting spirit".

Originally posted by Surtur
I have to say I'd also favor the USA. I especially don't know if Russia and China have more "fighting spirit".

I also think whilst the Russians would parachute in the chinese would drill tunnels and come up from underneath. I saw that dramatised also. It would be the old high/low.

Russia in WWII fought harder than anyone.

Hold on you mean you think they would drill a tunnel from..China all the way to America?

Originally posted by Surtur
Hold on you mean you think they would drill a hole from..China all the way to America?

Yes, with giant drilling machines. They would make a giant network of tunnells. The Russians would parachute in at the same time. I have seen both of these plans excellently dramatised by American films.

The technology to do what you are talking about doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Surtur
The technology to do what you are talking about doesn't exist.

You say that but America was worried about this as long ago as 1967, where they created this propaganda piece to keep people vigilant about Chinamen coming up through the ground.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061387/

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I don't see that at all. I think it's far more likely the russians and chinese parachute in and take the U.S. I'm pretty sure this was realisticly dramatised.

Those films had the Cubans and Soviets, then the N. Koreans and Russians. Entirely different animals, no comparison.

Anyhow, it is known that every real American has a gun (around 37%), so applying simple maths of US population-by-gun%, that means there would be roughly 117million guns aimed at the sky shooting down those Chinese and Russian paratroopers.

To put it in even finer perspective:

Chinese military = 4.63mil (Active/Res)
Russian military = 3.25 (Active/Res)

Gives us about 14.9 civilian guns aimed at every Chinese and Russian soldier. In short, real(not the fake ones who don't own guns) American citizens could defeat Russia and China without the help of the US military. /thread

USA, not even close. We have way more military budget than both of those combined, and we have more ability to expand our military budget. Our weaponry is higher tech, and yadda yadda. Russia's economy is weak, and would not be good in a war effort. Severing economic ties with China would hurt us a fair amount, but not nearly as much as it'd hurt China.

And, most importantly, our Navy is supremely dominant, neither of the two are naval powers.

Civilian guns don't matter for jack. Aside from civies with guns not really having much chance against soldiers, there's approximately zero chance of things reaching US shores.