Khan Noonien Singh vs. Obi Wan Kenobi (Attack of the Clones)

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi7 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
There simply is no evidence the lightsabers can deflect something as wide and as powerful as the Boolean gun. It'd be like you saying prove it can't block the Death Star as ridiculous as it sounds the evidence doesn't support it can block anything just what it has blocked.

Kenobi went down to Cad Bane. His hand speed was greater than Kenobi's. Khan's feats and weaponry is too much for Kenobi. Since when has he ever blocked or deflected something capable of downing a Klingon ship with a single shot.

Khan takes down ships bit smaller, fleshy beasts. You're unbelievably stupid and an overall unlikeable, annoying person soon to be beat up by TI.

Funny enough, either one of us would curb stomp you with utter ease. A challenge you would run from every single time.

It's up TO YOU TO PROVE it can't block it, thus it's up to you to prove said claim. As of right now it's only your speculation it can't be blocked

No clownshoes, I was countering your typical lowballing. You acted like Jango's weapons were weak because they didn't do damage to the ground LMAO.. So I illustrated that his SMALLER one shot killed a big beast easily

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Funny enough, either one of us would curb stomp you with utter ease. A challenge you would run from every single time.

It's up TO YOU TO PROVE it can't block it, thus it's up to you to prove said claim. As of right now it's only your speculation it can't be blocked

No clownshoes, I was countering your typical lowballing. You acted like Jango's weapons were weak because they didn't do damage to the ground LMAO.. So I illustrated that his SMALLER one shot killed a big beast easily

Why are you changing the subject. He's going to beat you up. I have nothing to do with this, wimp.

Ok, since you aren't capable of understanding simple points I'll try another way.

Do you think the lightsaber can block the Death Star ?

We go by feats. He is accurate so it was a well placed shot. Khan downs ships and leaves flash in stumps. We see Jango earlier shoot a Jedi and we don't see any physical damage at all comparable to Khan's Boolean gun. Try to think for a change.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. He won due to skill.

Both at characters who have disarmed Kenobi. He gets disarmed a lot. Khan wins.

What skill? Bane got disarmed twice. 😂 He won due to kenobi not paying attention. Fact.

When did Bane disarm Kenobi? I know kenobi disarmed Bane twice and Jango needed a gigantic explosion to do so thus not doing it skillfully and then kenobi still had him pinned in Hand to Hand combat. Khan shall lose just as he has lost every other force weilder thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So we agree that what you said was complete and utter nonsense. He doesn't fight at that speed. He only fled at that speed one time which represents less than 1 percent of his showings. Calling someone else exceptionally simple minded while saying u over and over again. You're a perfect imbecile. Or should I have said, "U're," so you can understand it.

He ran from a fight. If he runs away from a fight or leaves the area he loses. Period. The Jango Fett example if exactly how the Jedi take on the bounty hunters. You trying to use one example that he avoided a fight while ignoring an [B]example of how fast he reacted during a fight is desperation.

Here is a canon example of Kenobi with a Jedi ally on foot against one bounty hunter. Not only does Kenobi need help but Bane perceives him just fine and actually proves to be quicker koing Kenobi.

27 seconds in Cad ties up Vos while he's just running away on foot firing his blasters.
42 seconds in the rock pillar holding up Obi is gunned down. Obi needs time to recover while Vos now continues the pursuit of two on one. 52 seconds in after a droid helps distract him Bane kicks him off while Obi now continues the pursuit. Two on one so it really shouldn't matter since its two on one anyways to even out the unfair advantages. 1:01 in is the first time we see Bane use his flight boots. 1:23 in after Bane disarms Obi and his second light saber they fight one on one. Bane doesn't have the training with a laser sword yet he isn't decimated despite Obi's specialized training. 1:27 in after Obi disarms his saber Bane then quickly acts and electrocutes him out. He showed he was more than quick enough to fight at the jedis strength up close and personal and come out victorious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSayqv1TVI

Look at how many blasts Bane gets off as well as Fett in the clone film. Both are examples that Kenobi doesn't sprint at an opponent during a fight. Khan's guns are also quicker proving he gets off more shots as well as more powerful. There is no proof the lightsaber can deflect the Boolean gun.

Being more powerful doesn't mean he's more durable. Durability and power aren't the same thing. Anakin is flat out terrible when it comes to durability against similar Jedi. The other was a coordination and force amped feat that has nothing to do with strength. Yoda isn't strong but can clip all over the place with the force but on his own he can barely walk with a cane. Dooku's Lightning is weaker than Palpatine's and neither Lightning has killed anyone based off the force alone. Khan's gun leaves people in stumps of flesh while Sheev's Lightning leaves smoke behind. People can survive over ten second durations meant to kill by the more powerful Sheev thus proving the force Lightning Dooku uses is absolute garbage power wise.

He has superhuman skill but not superhuman durability. The force can't make him tank blasters hitting his body. Khan tanked 8 stun phaser blasts thus proving the guy is an enhanced superhuman. His cellular regeneration was a main point of the film and his blood in the proper settings can bring people back to life and heal incurable diseases.

Ok, if you want to ignore canon clone wars because you're a coward then so be it. It's obvious the thread starter doesn't believe canon Kenobi can win here. 😂

I like to argue canon vs. canon but I'll withdraw my Bane statements if the threadstarter admits he restricted the clone wars due to give Kenobi a better chance because he needs all the fanboyism and help he can get.

Khan wins. [/B]

quan why do u insist on making a fool of ur self over and over. I never once said that he would fight at that speed. Provide a quote from me saying different or face another failure on ur part. Wow u really hit me where it hurts. In my use of short hand when i type. Ur even worse at trash talking then u r at debating.

As for the rest ill just take ur continued use of TCW feats as ur concession that u cant win the debate under the actual rules and stipulations of the fight, and like any loser u have to break the rules to have any shot.

And carthage doesnt have to admit anything for ur TCW feats to be invalid in this thread. It doesnt matter if u withdraw them or not . They're not being considered in the least.

Originally posted by Raptor22
quan why do u insist on making a fool of ur self over and over. I never once said that he would fight at that speed. Provide a quote from me saying different or face another failure on ur part. Wow u really hit me where it hurts. In my use of short hand when i type. Ur even worse at trash talking then u r at debating.

As for the rest ill just take ur continued use of TCW feats as ur concession that u cant win the debate under the actual rules and stipulations of the fight, and like any loser u have to break the rules to have any shot.

And carthage doesnt have to admit anything for ur TCW feats to be invalid in this thread. It doesnt matter if u withdraw them or not . They're not being considered in the least.

I already provided a clip of what speed Kenobi fights at against fett. Windu looked to be around the same speed.

I've provided film feats as well as clone wars feats. I've provided plenty of film material you're ignoring due to being a piss poor debater.

Khan wins, badly. 🙂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What skill? Bane got disarmed twice. 😂 He won due to kenobi not paying attention. Fact.

When did Bane disarm Kenobi? I know kenobi disarmed Bane twice and Jango needed a gigantic explosion to do so thus not doing it skillfully and then kenobi still had him pinned in Hand to Hand combat. Khan shall lose just as he has lost every other force weilder thread.

He showed skill throughout the fight. So you think he possessed zero skill and beat Kenobi. You disrepspect the Jedi.

He had two sabers and took one out. Mango used his own weapons skillfully to disarm him. He also used skill to keep the lightsaber from Obi the force user.

Khan wins due to superiority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He showed skill throughout the fight. So you think he possessed zero skill and beat Kenobi. You disrepspect the Jedi.

He had two sabers and took one out. Mango used his own weapons skillfully to disarm him. He also used skill to keep the lightsaber from Obi the force user.

Khan wins due to superiority.

Oh well to beat kenobi no he had no skill. If you need to beat someone through distraction you can't beat them head on you don't have any real skill.

Didn't Obi disarm Jango too. Kenobi also used his skill to freakin kick him around and then destroyed his jet pack.

Your opinion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Oh well to beat kenobi no he had no skill. If you need to beat someone through distraction you can't beat them head on you don't have any real skill.

Didn't Obi disarm Jango too. Kenobi also used his skill to freakin kick him around and then destroyed his jet pack.

Your opinion.

This is why you're a child. Distracting someone is a skill in combat. Batman is highly skilled at distraction aka misdirection.

Yes, and you agree that they both stalemated despite mango not having the force. 😂

Mango also moronically flew right at him. Dumb move.

My opinion is correct.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already provided a clip of what speed Kenobi fights at against fett. Windu looked to be around the same speed.

I've provided film feats as well as clone wars feats. I've provided plenty of film material you're ignoring due to being a piss poor debater.

Khan wins, badly. 🙂

the fett fight doesnt invalidate his other showings, and you've provided nothing of substance to make any difference to the outcome of this fight. Which is khan getting cut to pieces by a faster, stronger, more durable and more skilled opponent.

Originally posted by Raptor22
the fett fight doesnt invalidate his other showings, and you've provided nothing of substance to make any difference to the outcome of this fight. Which is khan getting cut to pieces by a faster, stronger, more durable and more skilled opponent.
Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jango Fett. Fett disarmed the Jedi pretty quickly. Khan's weapons, strength, and accuracy put Fett to shame and he kind of humiliated Kenobi already. 😂

If it went hand to hand Khan would crush his skull. The much more likely scenario has him leave Kenobi's body in stumps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jango Fett. Fett disarmed the Jedi pretty quickly. Khan's weapons, strength, and accuracy put Fett to shame and he kind of humiliated Kenobi already. 😂

If it went hand to hand Khan would crush his skull. The much more likely scenario has him leave Kenobi's body in stumps.

once again ur first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Its becoming harder and harder to debate with u the further u slip into senility.

If it went hand to hand khan wouldn't have much hope since his hands would most likely be lying on the ground, right where kenobi left them after chopping them off.

Originally posted by Raptor22
once again ur first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Its becoming harder and harder to debate with u the further u slip into senility.

If it went hand to hand khan wouldn't have much hope since his hands would most likely be lying on the ground, right where kenobi left them after chopping them off.

So you concede and are left literally speechless. 😂

Hand to hand implies no weapons, kiddo. Weapons Kenobi ends up in stumps of flesh. Khan is far superior to the guy who didn't even significantly injure Fett despite your fanboyish claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is why you're a child. Distracting someone is a skill in combat. Batman is highly skilled at distraction aka misdirection.

Yes, and you agree that they both stalemated despite mango not having the force. 😂

Mango also moronically flew right at him. Dumb move.

My opinion is correct.

🙂

However Bane didn't distract him. He took advantage of his distraction which is a smart idea however he didn't beat through superior skill.

Jango wasn't anything without that jet pack. If kenobi wasn't attached by that wire Jango would have been down for the count.

Jango not Mango.

Wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede and are left literally speechless. 😂

Hand to hand implies no weapons, kiddo. Weapons Kenobi ends up in stumps of flesh. Khan is far superior to the guy who didn't even significantly injure Fett despite your fanboyish claims.

i wouldnt say speechless since u know, i replied and all. A more appropriate phrase would be confused by ur stupidity. Seriously what am supposed to do when faced with a gem of an argument like-

"Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jange Fett."-quan

Originally posted by Raptor22
i wouldnt say speechless since u know, i replied and all. A more appropriate phrase would be confused by ur stupidity. Seriously what am supposed to do when faced with a gem of an argument like-

"Fett wasn't cut to ribbons by a less skilled and weaker opponent Jange Fett."-quan

So because I had a typo in there you fall to pieces and think somehow you get a free pass.

Fett wasn't cut to pieces. Your claims are baseless. Khan wins. Stumps of flesh or crushed cranium.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
However Bane didn't distract him. He took advantage of his distraction which is a smart idea however he didn't beat through superior skill.

Jango wasn't anything without that jet pack. If kenobi wasn't attached by that wire Jango would have been down for the count.

Jango not Mango.

Wrong.

What distracted kenobi then ?

Yes, he was. Without his jet pack he still was not defeated by kenobi. So basically you think kenobi is shit.

Right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What distracted kenobi then ?

Yes, he was. Without his jet pack he still was not defeated by kenobi. So basically you think kenobi is shit.

Right.

Him disarming Bane apparently as that was the last thing that happened before kenobi went down.

He fled from kenobi as he didn't defeat kenobi either.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Him disarming Bane apparently as that was the last thing that happened before kenobi went down.

He fled from kenobi as he didn't defeat kenobi either.

So kenobi disarming an opponent distracted him ? Dear lord you're a baboon.

He kod kenobi. There were two on one so fleeing was smart and effective. They didn't apprehend him.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
So kenobi disarming an opponent distracted him ? Dear lord you're a baboon.

He kod kenobi. There were two on one so fleeing was smart and effective. They didn't apprehend him.

😂

I go by facts and once he disarmed bane kenobi wasn't paying attention right after that.

When did he KO kenobi? So now,fleeing is a smart move? God help us make up your mind. According to you fleeing means surrendering thus he surrendered.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I go by facts and once he disarmed bane kenobi wasn't paying attention right after that.

When did he KO kenobi? So now,fleeing is a smart move? God help us make up your mind. According to you fleeing means surrendering thus he surrendered.

So you think Kenobi is so inept he screwed himself over. Wow.

So you didn't even watch the clip. You're just a rabid fanboy who isn't even familiar with the clip. Bane won. He kod him.