Originally posted by carver9
Thor tells us that ALL of his power was restored...not some of it, not partial either; he said ALL of his power was restored by leader and he said that he will take advantage of this while it was there.Full powered Thor bro.
Him believing having all his powers have returned does not necessarily mean he's back to full godly status or "full power" as you like to call it.
Like I said before, Leader powering him up =/= to him getting repowered through Asgard/Odin. Unless of course you believe Leader has access to skyfather powers. In that case no one can help you.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17Leader empowered him? I don't recall. Anyone have scans?
You just repeated what I already said. Same book I can show you one of his lightning shots fizzling out. How do you explain that? Then in the same day he collapses after transporting away a gamma bomb explosion with explanation from the book itself that he's not the same as he once was.Him believing having all his powers have returned does not necessarily mean he's back to full godly status or "full power" as you like to call it.
Like I said before, Leader powering him up =/= to him getting repowered through Asgard/Odin. Unless of course you believe Leader has access to skyfather powers. In that case no one can help you.
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Originally posted by ODG
Leader empowered him? I don't recall. Anyone have scans?
Anyways in Avengers #397, Vision tells Thor that it may have been the Leader all along who was responsible for his return to "godly glory". The book even went as far as to reference Hulk #439(issue before the fight) to explain that specific statement. All I remember from that issue is Leader's constant machinations in the shadows as was the case in that whole arc, that ultimately led into the fight.
Then we have Carver's scan from Thor #497 with him narrating that the Leader was responsible for getting his powers back... Essentially telling the readers that once again the reason for him flying around over the city was because of the Leader.
Really dumb and lazy way I know.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its weird they never showed the method in which the leader empowered him. Even if he wasn't in full god mode that's still a legit feat. Pity
It's funny all their hand waving of how Thor got powered up in that issue with all the half-@$$ed explanations in related follow up issues and what not.
Bottom line is he was never truly was back to his true godly status until the end of Thor #499 after he tried pulling Odin's sword from Ygrdrassil.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I think it's because Marvel just wanted to shoehorn that fight in Hulk #440. I mean come on, who wouldn't want to see another Hulk and Thor showdown? They couldn't have him severely depowered and having a titanic battle with the Hulk could they?
Hence the lazy approach.
🙁It's funny all their hand waving of how Thor got powered up in that issue with all the half-@$$ed explanations in related follow up issues and what not.
Bottom line is he was never truly was back to his true godly status until the end of Thor #499 after he tried pulling Odin's sword from Ygrdrassil.
Figures... why is that Thor being brought up anyway? They aren't analogous
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Figures... why is that Thor being brought up anyway? They aren't analogous
It was Carver's way of secretly conceding that lightning would phukk him up nicely so he tried to skirt around that issue by claiming that even Thor believes only "brute force" as in only melee can stop Hulk. You know since Thor said it and all..
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Carver brought up the fight as proof that the only way to beat Hulk was with something Thor said in the scan. Something about "brute force" being the only option.. He misinterpreted though because as opposed to taking a more cerebral approach and planning ahead with the Avengers, Thor just wanted to go in like gangbusters using a direct approach.It was Carver's way of secretly conceding that lightning would phukk him up nicely so he tried to skirt around that issue by claiming that even Thor believes only "brute force" as in only melee can stop Hulk. You know since Thor said it and all..
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Well that's Thors shtick, he loves going melee even though he's better than that. Honestly id never even touch hulk. Id hit him with a lightning blast then put mjolnir on his chest till he calmed tf down. Or just port him somewhere, fighting him is a waste of time.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Carver brought up the fight as proof that the only way to beat Hulk was with something Thor said in the scan. Something about "brute force" being the only option.. He misinterpreted though because as opposed to taking a more cerebral approach and planning ahead with the Avengers, Thor just wanted to go in like gangbusters using a direct approach.It was Carver's way of secretly conceding that lightning would phukk him up nicely so he tried to skirt around that issue by claiming that even Thor believes only "brute force" as in only melee can stop Hulk. You know since Thor said it and all..
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He did say it though.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Well that's Thors shtick, he loves going melee even though he's better than that. Honestly id never even touch hulk. Id hit him with a lightning blast then put mjolnir on his chest till he calmed tf down. Or just port him somewhere, fighting him is a waste of time.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes as in forgo any planning with his teammates and just jump into action. It's the same brains over brawn explanation from Rage.
He basically said that no plan would work against Hulk except brute strength. Lol...Hulk was probably holding back anyways since his goal during all of this was to prevent a world wide war. Hell, during the end of the fight, Hulk saved Thor's life. Anyways, here's proof that Hulk's intention was to save the world and get the Avengers attention instead of, ya know, merking them...
Let's also not forget that the guy had a shrapnel in his brain that killed him later on.
Originally posted by carver9
He basically said that no plan would work against Hulk except brute strength. Lol...Hulk was probably holding back anyways since his goal during all of this was to prevent a world wide war. Hell, during the end of the fight, Hulk saved Thor's life. Anyways, here's proof that Hulk's intention was to save the world and get the Avengers attention instead of, ya know, merking them...Let's also not forget that the guy had a shrapnel in his brain that killed him later on.
Still doesn't change the fact that this is not Thor back to his true godly status.
And btw it's "brute force" and not brute strength. There is a distinct difference between the two.
Brute force in Thor's case can be anything from punching, grappling, kicking, lightning shots, hammering, etc.. You know since he's the god of thunder and all.
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