Originally posted by h1a8Best of their abilities doesn't mean how h1 wants them to
Superman has both super speed and super fast reflexes. These are two different powers. It was shown on panel multiple times that Superman can view things frozen in time or in super slow motion. His super reflexes gives him that ability. Comics sometimes ignore that ability by Superman. Good thing this is a forum fight where characters fight to the best of their abilities.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm going to debunk Thanos durability against blunt force.
If you look at his entire history of all the times he was struck by a high Herald you would see that he was always affected. He never once no sold a blunt force strike from a high Herald. That's because all writer's write him with the durability to be affected by high Herald blunt attacks.So to magically assume that Thanos is not going to be affected by the blunt force of Superman in a forum is asinine. Once Superman knows how durable and tough a character is then he will adjust accordingly, like he does with Darkseid.
It's Superman speed and, most importantly, reflexes that will make him stomp Thanos with ease in a forum fight. He would always view Thanos in slow motion and thus making his fight against him easy. In a comic, character's reflexes is often ignored for the sake of the story.
So 1 Preboot Supes stomps and 1 dcNu Superman wins a fair majority.
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Originally posted by Sin I AM
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So I proved that ALL high Heralds can affect Thanos with blunt force. Superman is significantly stronger than any high Herald that physically affected Thanos and thus he can significantly affect Thanos here.
Superman, fighting to the best of his ability, can view time slowed and Thanos moving in slow motion (just like flash and quicksilver can). So this fight will be easy for him.
So let's not ignore the irrefutable logic because you don't like Superman being able to beat Thanos.
Originally posted by h1a8
So I proved that ALL high Heralds can affect Thanos with blunt force. Superman is significantly stronger than any high Herald that physically affected Thanos and thus he can significantly affect Thanos here.Superman, fighting to the best of his ability, can view time slowed and Thanos moving in slow motion (just like flash and quicksilver can). So this fight will be easy for him.
So let's not ignore the irrefutable logic because you don't like Superman being able to beat Thanos.
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Originally posted by Insane TitanBy feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. PG Thor never showed more than 2x the strength of his normal self. He simply wasn't drawing from the gem effectively. So Superman is still stronger than PG Thor. Plus Superman has speed and reflexes to avoid being hit more times than PG Thor can. .
Superman can't effect Thanos more than PG Thor did. Plus Superman doesn't have the gem backing his damage soak/durability etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
best to their abilities implies what they have actually shown in comics when they are fighting to their best ability and not things they haven't actually shown.
Much like when Superman unleashed on Manchester Black to prove a point. That's the mindset I think of when discussing a forum fight.
Originally posted by h1a8More nonsense. By fears Superman and Thor are pretty much equals in striking fears.
By feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. PG Thor never showed more than 2x the strength of his normal self. He simply wasn't drawing from the gem effectively. So Superman is still stronger than PG Thor. Plus Superman has speed and reflexes to avoid being hit more times than PG Thor can. .
READ the phucking comic for once , PG Thors fears alone prove he was more than 2x stronger than normal. Again you have FAILED to prove the only 2x stronger myth.
The comic itself states Thor was getting stronger by the MINUTE. On panel facts destroy your baseless troll argument.
Originally posted by h1a8Nope you are wrong
By feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. PG Thor never showed more than 2x the strength of his normal self. He simply wasn't drawing from the gem effectively. So Superman is still stronger than PG Thor. Plus Superman has speed and reflexes to avoid being hit more times than PG Thor can. .
Originally posted by Insane Titanyou need to Reread blood and thunder. Thor before the gem was pretty much hitting with almost the same force as he was after the gem. PG Thor did hit a little harder though. But not more than 2x as hard. Also I can find showings where normal Thor hit harder than PG Thor.
More nonsense. By fears Superman and Thor are pretty much equals in striking fears.READ the phucking comic for once , PG Thors fears alone prove he was more than 2x stronger than normal. Again you have FAILED to prove the only 2x stronger myth.
The comic itself states Thor was getting stronger by the MINUTE. On panel facts destroy your baseless troll argument.
For you to assume Superman and Thor's feats are nearly equals is a lack of science knowledge. Superman's feats took at least thousands of times more force than Thors. Superman doesn't kill so his hitting a random villain is not a reflection of his true strength. Superman, when letting loose, has one shot trans level beings only with pure physical strikes.
Originally posted by h1a8
By feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. PG Thor never showed more than 2x the strength of his normal self. He simply wasn't drawing from the gem effectively. So Superman is still stronger than PG Thor. Plus Superman has speed and reflexes to avoid being hit more times than PG Thor can. .
I used to like listening to this guy but Some of the shit that you post is just verbal garbage stop with the speed blitz shit man.
And stop with the thor hit 2X's harder crap. I remember the days when you said supes being 1000 times stronger geesh
Originally posted by zeelno one mentioned speed blitz in the whole thread. I didn't. My argument is that Superman's reflexes allows him to view much slower things in slow motion. If that's garbage to you then you shouldn't be debating at all.
I used to like listening to this guy but Some of the shit that you post is just verbal garbage stop with the speed blitz shit man.And stop with the thor hit 2X's harder crap. I remember the days when you said supes being 1000 times stronger geesh
You can't randomly say two beings are roughly equal in strength because you want it to be so. You have to prove it. If one being has exerted higher forces than another then he is stronger "by feats". This is common sense.
I used to say that going by feats then Superman has exerted more than a million times more force than Thor. For now, it's more than a hundred times more.
It's nothing wrong with that since characters fight against and do ok against characters tens to hundreds of times stronger than them a lot in comics. Just look at Thing vs. Hulk or Colossus vs Hulk. Doesn't mean that Hulk isn't tens to hundreds of times stronger than either.
If I spout nonsense then it is extremely easy to prove me wrong.
Originally posted by h1a8Stop with the troll nonsense. I want to see actual proof backing up this "official" only 2x stronger bs you always claim.
you need to Reread blood and thunder. Thor before the gem was pretty much hitting with almost the same force as he was after the gem. PG Thor did hit a little harder though. But not more than 2x as hard. Also I can find showings where normal Thor hit harder than PG Thor.For you to assume Superman and Thor's feats are nearly equals is a lack of science knowledge. Superman's feats took at least thousands of times more force than Thors. Superman doesn't kill so his hitting a random villain is not a reflection of his true strength. Superman, when letting loose, has one shot trans level beings only with pure physical strikes.