Darth Malak vs Darth Bane
Pre-Orbalisk armor Bane, non-Star Forge Malak.
Fight takes place aboard the Leviathan where Malak fought Revan's party. Standard morals and equipment.
If he starts losing, Malak is allowed to run into the second room and seal the door for some rest, but he can't go anywhere else.
He's contended with Darth Revan in a duel, frozen both Bastila and Carth with Stasis whilst dueling a pre-prime Revan (and then briefly trapped Revan in Whirlwind) and then telekinetically sealing blast doors as well. Then he froze Revan with Stasis.
I think his showings are more than sufficient to compete with Bane's, especially as of this point in time.
Originally posted by SunRazer
What has PoD Bane done to outclass those showings?
Turned armored fighters to ash + husk a Drexl with lightning, has stellar speed feats that Malak really lacks, destroyed the Lehon temple, mastered hundreds of thousands of forms very quickly and was a master of multiple forms or all of them, outperformed Kas'im who's swordsmanship is well above Malak's, lifted a large stone slab while overpowering Freedon Nadd's sorcery, murdered a pack of Tuk'ata (which an entire strike team of Obi-Wan Kenobi, Siri Tachi, Soara Antana, Anakin Skywalker, Ferus Olin and Darra Thel-Tanis had trouble with at one point) with his lightsaber at a point he laughed at the idea of fighting Kas'im, laughed off Kaan's mental suggestions and Kaan was powerful enough to compel every Sith in the galaxy to join him on Ruusan and control hundreds, possibly thousands of Sith despite them being highly mentally trained.
What? Bane mastered hundreds of thousands of forms? lol
His turning drexyls to flesh was with some Orbalisks, as I recall, and Lightning can be intercepted on a blade.
Based on what is Kas'im's swordsmanship well beyond Malak's?
What do you mean he "overpowered" Nadd's sorcery, which, by the way, would've been from millennia ago?
Bane calling down the temple was on a nexus that outclassed Korriban's in potency and made Bane woozy, and Bane still had to gather energies for a period of time on the nexus in order to call down the temple.
I'm usually arguing against the use of this feat, but Malak did operate the Star Forge, which is immensely corrupting to the mind. I'm convinced that as a feat of mental resistance, it's at least on par with Bane resisting Kaan's mental suggestions. Regardless, Bane having more willpower than Malak would be impertinent to the result of a fight between the two of them anyway.
Originally posted by SunRazer
What? Bane mastered hundreds of thousands of forms? lol
Sequences would be more apt. PoD uses a different meaning of form at some points iirc, so sorry for the confusion.
Originally posted by SunRazer
His turning drexyls to flesh was with some Orbalisks, as I recall, and Lightning can be intercepted on a blade.
He did it one-handed while flying at very high speeds with no indication of effort. The orbalisks merely give him more adrenaline, they don't provide an actual amp. Bane actually only starts using them in this manner after he kills the Drexl.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Based on what is Kas'im's swordsmanship well beyond Malak's?
The fact that he mastered every form for multiple weapon styles to utter perfection and knew them well enough to invent thousands of sequences for each variation and form?
Originally posted by SunRazer
What do you mean he "overpowered" Nadd's sorcery, which, by the way, would've been from millennia ago?
Nadd had placed a slab in front of an entrance and sorcerously held it there. When Bane tries to move it he feels the spell resisting him before overpowering it.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Bane calling down the temple was on a nexus that outclassed Korriban's in potency and made Bane woozy, and Bane still had to gather energies for a period of time on the nexus in order to call down the temple.
So what? It's a feat that eclipses anything Malak has done by several hundred nautical miles. He utterly doesn't compare.
Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm usually arguing against the use of this feat, but Malak did operate the Star Forge, which is immensely corrupting to the mind. I'm convinced that as a feat of mental resistance, it's at least on par with Bane resisting Kaan's mental suggestions. Regardless, Bane having more willpower than Malak would be impertinent to the result of a fight between the two of them anyway.
Well I disagree considering Kaan's feats exceed anything the Star Forge has done. Kaan being able to compel hundreds or thousands of Sith demonstrates Bane's strength of mind and power to so easily resist him.
Originally posted by Stigma
Bane destoyed the archway and then the domino effect took its toll.Also, nexus feat.
As SunRazer mentioned, please do not pass nexus and/or Orbalisk feats as valid for Bane. Especially given the OP. 😬
I don't care, the feat it miles above Malak. The supposed nexus amp does nothing to dispute Bane's utter superiority.
Also no, it wasn't a domino effect.