John Connor(Genysis) vs Khan(STID)

Started by Genesis-Soldier13 pages

khan has no means nor weaponry that could put connor down

I am actually wondering if blaster or lightsabers could put connor down?

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
khan has no means nor weaponry that could put connor down
Based on ?

Originally posted by Silent Master
thedkeffect isn't very smart, that is why two of his favorite debate tactics are to lowball and ignore context.

Its annoyingly hilarious.

a Boolean gun and a knife wont disrupt and stop the nanites present in Connor's body, as stated in the genysis "the only weapon that would possibly stop John Connor now is electro magnetic weaponry"

whilst a Boolean gun is Energy based (I think) I doubt it has a suitable EMP charge big enough or powerful enough to constantly stop Connors body. the EMP Lancers and liquid magnetic shotgun shells didn't stop connor at all

the Lancers slowed him down for 3 seconds whilst the shot gun shells just put holes in him which he almost instantly healed up with no visible damage or lose in healing rate

So I understand people enjoy making fun of Khan but while John was extremely tough durable I don't want to start giving him a no limits fallacy on those attributes.

Khan's big gun has some serious out put and John is still a physical beam. While he was able to heal from those laser burns they definitely hurt John and slowed him down. Taking a shot from a gun capable of blowing up half a patrol shipI think could seriously hurt John if not put him down.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by Newjak
So I understand people enjoy making fun of Khan but while John was extremely tough durable I don't want to start giving him a no limits fallacy on those attributes.

Khan's big gun has some serious out put and John is still a physical beam. While he was able to heal from those laser burns they definitely hurt John and slowed him down. Taking a shot from a gun capable of blowing up half a patrol shipI think could seriously hurt John if not put him down.

doubtful
if we look at the t-1000 he was becoming more and more durable from shots. at first he was put down by standard 9mm shots, then as the scene progresses he was taking them and still walking forward, then he starts taking 50 cal desert eagle shots to which he later becomes more and more resistant to

the same is said for connor, he was downed by a point blank shotgun burst, 30 seconds into the movie later they wernt putting him down. the first two lazer strikes did hurt him but the third was visibly less effective.

if connor survives a Boolean shot (which he has a good chance of doing) then the gun will eventually have minimal effect of John

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
I am actually wondering if blaster or lightsabers could put connor down?

Pops used a laser on him and it did nothing to him he regenerated

I know but would a lightsaber do the same?

lets debate this in my thread

Khan was, easily.

John takes this by a rape storm, look how fast he was moving in the Genysis chamber fighting pops, the damage soak he was taking from the lazers, emp fire, 50 calibre bullets and god damn explosions levelling a concrete bunker

john was producing blades, switching his body around and just owning everything in sight. he was impaled and walked it off

doubtful
if we look at the t-1000 he was becoming more and more durable from shots. at first he was put down by standard 9mm shots, then as the scene progresses he was taking them and still walking forward, then he starts taking 50 cal desert eagle shots to which he later becomes more and more resistant to

the same is said for connor, he was downed by a point blank shotgun burst, 30 seconds into the movie later they wernt putting him down. the first two lazer strikes did hurt him but the third was visibly less effective.

if connor survives a Boolean shot (which he has a good chance of doing) then the gun will eventually have minimal effect of

a Boolean gun and a knife wont disrupt and stop the nanites present in Connor's body, as stated in the genysis "the only weapon that would possibly stop John Connor now is electro magnetic weaponry"

whilst a Boolean gun is Energy based (I think) I doubt it has a suitable EMP charge big enough or powerful enough to constantly stop Connors body. the EMP Lancers and liquid magnetic shotgun shells didn't stop connor at all

the Lancers slowed him down for 3 seconds whilst the shot gun shells just put holes in him which he almost instantly healed up with no visible damage or lose in healing rate

does this prove khan wins at all and if so, how?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan was, easily.

Why is your dick so hard for Khan?

i think its because he pictures your avatar on Benedic's body

although in all fairness that IS a good Avatar

People do tend to enjoy it 🙂 For the life of me though I can't remember where I got it, I've had it for so long

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
doubtful
if we look at the t-1000 he was becoming more and more durable from shots. at first he was put down by standard 9mm shots, then as the scene progresses he was taking them and still walking forward, then he starts taking 50 cal desert eagle shots to which he later becomes more and more resistant to

the same is said for connor, he was downed by a point blank shotgun burst, 30 seconds into the movie later they wernt putting him down. the first two lazer strikes did hurt him but the third was visibly less effective.

if connor survives a Boolean shot (which he has a good chance of doing) then the gun will eventually have minimal effect of John

Nowhere in the story did it even remotely state that the two terminators mentioned have some adaptive defense mechanism that kicked in once you failed to kill them with something.

What happened in this movie was typical of the terminator movies. Heck in the first one a simple human being was able to get a terminator off balance in a one on one fight even though that same Terminator goes on to walk off car crashes and assault rifle shots like they were nothing. The premise is to build tension.

So let us not start assigning abilities that never happened in the movie.

The Terminators do not ramp up in durability by adapting to things that did not kill them. They are just super tough things that can get taken by surprise and knocked down like any other physical being.

If John survives a Boolean shot (something I have extreme doubts to because he never took that kind of firepower in the Genisys and the only that comes close, the lasers, while not killing him certainly were putting a hurting on him) he is probably going to be seriously messed up. Enough for another shot to take him down.

Originally posted by Newjak
So I understand people enjoy making fun of Khan but while John was extremely tough durable I don't want to start giving him a no limits fallacy on those attributes.

Khan's big gun has some serious out put and John is still a physical beam. While he was able to heal from those laser burns they definitely hurt John and slowed him down. Taking a shot from a gun capable of blowing up half a patrol shipI think could seriously hurt John if not put him down.

Are you for real?

Originally posted by steverules_2
Why is your dick so hard for Khan?
My objectivity for the seriousness of this forum should never be mistaken for fanboyism. I do love Khan but I only argue objectively based off the evidence. I combat fanboys on a day to day basis.

Stupid..., this is a Khan walk all day long. Super hero vs a mortal...., who wins ?