John Connor(Genysis) vs Khan(STID)

Originally posted by Newjak
Nowhere in the story did it even remotely state that the two terminators mentioned have some adaptive defense mechanism that kicked in once you failed to kill them with something.

What happened in this movie was typical of the terminator movies. Heck in the first one a simple human being was able to get a terminator off balance in a one on one fight even though that same Terminator goes on to walk off car crashes and assault rifle shots like they were nothing. The premise is to build tension.

So let us not start assigning abilities that never happened in the movie.

The Terminators do not ramp up in durability by adapting to things that did not kill them. They are just super tough things that can get taken by surprise and knocked down like any other physical being.

If John survives a Boolean shot (something I have extreme doubts to because he never took that kind of firepower in the Genisys and the only that comes close, the lasers, while not killing him certainly were putting a hurting on him) he is probably going to be seriously messed up. Enough for another shot to take him down.

He would have survived that chrono weapon had paps not put that disrupter in him. So no, the gun ain't killing him.

Originally posted by Newjak
Nowhere in the story did it even remotely state that the two terminators mentioned have some adaptive defense mechanism that kicked in once you failed to kill them with something.

What happened in this movie was typical of the terminator movies. Heck in the first one a simple human being was able to get a terminator off balance in a one on one fight even though that same Terminator goes on to walk off car crashes and assault rifle shots like they were nothing. The premise is to build tension.

So let us not start assigning abilities that never happened in the movie.

The Terminators do not ramp up in durability by adapting to things that did not kill them. They are just super tough things that can get taken by surprise and knocked down like any other physical being.

If John survives a Boolean shot (something I have extreme doubts to because he never took that kind of firepower in the Genisys and the only that comes close, the lasers, while not killing him certainly were putting a hurting on him) he is probably going to be seriously messed up. Enough for another shot to take him down.

and yet we have seen the t-1000 termination (the new and old) becoming more and more resistant to weapons as they progress

my example of this in genysis is when we see the standard police revolver (which the T-1000 was armed with) putting the T-1000 down then the bullet holes heal up as he runs into the clothing store, after reese (rhyse? reece?) is hiding behind the counter with the other police officer who was using a glock 20 to put holes in the oncoming terminator who was walking them off with no problem. then came in Sarah with the Desert eagle with is the famous 50 cal handgun that knock the terminator on its arse since its a much higher calibre then the police issue glock. when driving off the sarah pumped the terminator with the Same desert eagle and the terminator was taking them without being "one shotted"

the same is shown in the old terminator as the t-100 takes one shotgun blast from a standard pump action and is knocked down for a while, later on we see him taking multiple spas-12 shots and easily walking towards Sarah.

they are it was a T-1000, they do adapt and john was a T(x?) 3000 who was adapting very well to different sorts of high calibre weaponry

yes I do think a Boolean gun would hurt him a shiteton but if it doesn't put him down permenantly then there is strong evidence (as stated above) that he could adapt his durability)
like I have earlier mentioned pops said that only EMP weaponry and the likes would hurt or deal more then minimal damage to the upgraded connor, he was downed by a shotgun blast from pops in the garage then later on is seen to tank shotgun, assult rifle and medium-high calibre rounds. aswell as ordinance and bunker destroying inferno's/ explosions

if you can prove that a Boolean gun has a field capable of distrupting and destroying John's nanites body for long enough I will relook into the matter

but remember, when pops put his fist through connor and had the distrupting arm gauntlet (the thing made from the speakers) he said it wouldn't hold him for long and we could see that his nanites around the impact were fromen but the moving ones around the outside were starting to move in and re-animate the frozen nanites bit by bit

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
if you can prove that a Boolean gun has a field capable of distrupting and destroying John's nanites body for long enough I will relook into the matter

but remember, when pops put his fist through connor and had the distrupting arm gauntlet (the thing made from the speakers) he said it wouldn't hold him for long and we could see that his nanites around the impact were fromen but the moving ones around the outside were starting to move in and re-animate the frozen nanites bit by bit

Nah, the Boolean gun is far more powerful than any gun that hit Connor in the film therefore based on the feats of the Boolean gun that Khan wins.

connor had to be ripped apart by a quantum field, show me a weapon that can replicate that exact power, energy field.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
connor had to be ripped apart by a quantum field, show me a weapon that can replicate that exact power, energy field.

it vaporised everything did it ? please post a clip or showing of it doing so

the field had to stabilise before allowing the "time jump" to occur, it was this jumping field that killed connor and ripped him apart instead of automatically sending a bio-organic mass back in time

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
it vaporised everything did it ? please post a clip or showing of it doing so

the field had to stabilise before allowing the "time jump" to occur, it was this jumping field that killed connor and ripped him apart instead of automatically sending a bio-organic mass back in time

He was unable to break free from pops. It destroyed him. He was held in check and damaged the entire film by Pops. Khan would wreck him very quickly.

Trek tech>>Terminator tech.

he was unable to break free from pops because of the gauntlet protruding from his chest

what we saw doesn't prove anything if the energy field from a Boolean gun doesn't disrupt the nanites which will need to be proven otherwise I would be counted as minimal- damage wise

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
he was unable to break free from pops because of the gauntlet protruding from his chest

what we saw doesn't prove anything if the energy field from a Boolean gun doesn't disrupt the nanites which will need to be proven otherwise I would be counted as minimal- damage wise

Not based on the Boolean gun's feats. We don't see any weapon from terminator as powerful as that gun. Star Trek tech >>Terminator tech.

to hurt connor it needs to be emp weaponry or an energy field resembling what we have seen as a quantum field

that form of field frequency energy weaponry is the only thing that will hurt connor and I doubt a Boolean gun has those capabilities, as stated beforehand if you can prove it has these capabilities I will recheck

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
to hurt connor it needs to be emp weaponry or an energy field resembling what we have seen as a quantum field

that form of field frequency energy weaponry is the only thing that will hurt connor and I doubt a Boolean gun has those capabilities, as stated beforehand if you can prove it has these capabilities I will recheck

You don't get to say what is the only thing that can defeat him. I guess if he gets tossed in the sun he wills survive that as well.

Khan guns him down, effortlessly.

as stated by pops "the weaponry available will cause minimal damage to Connors nanite body, electric magnetic pulse weaponry will be sufficient to hurt john for long enough and will have the greatest chance.../"

well no shit a sun would kill him but khan doesn't have weaponry with a high enough energy output to hurt connor so take your butt hurt goblin feelings and prove to me a Boolean gun can hurt him

if you cannot you are simply dodging and more then likely scarcrowing to make khan seem that much more of a fighter

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
as stated by pops "the weaponry available will cause minimal damage to Connors nanite body, electric magnetic pulse weaponry will be sufficient to hurt john for long enough and will have the greatest chance.../"

well no shit a sun would kill him but khan doesn't have weaponry with a high enough energy output to hurt connor so take your butt hurt goblin feelings and prove to me a Boolean gun can hurt him

if you cannot you are simply dodging and more then likely scarcrowing to make khan seem that much more of a fighter

Khan takes him out by leaving giant holes in him. Khan, easily. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Simply absurd.

You don't get to say what is the only thing that can defeat him. I guess if he gets tossed in the sun he wills survive that as well.

Khan guns him down, effortlessly.

You are literally one of he dumbest people I've encountered on this site. This is why you're literally laughed at all over the internet. YOU made the claim the Boolean gun will work on Connor. It's up to you to prove it will. You don't get to shift the burden of proof just because you can't prove your case and are a bumbling moron. Doesn't work that way. We saw him dealing with various weapons just fine and healing from them with utter ease. If you feeling the Boolean gun will work where those other weapons failed PROVE IT. Pops already said the type of weaponry that will have the best chance to take him down or slow him down... As far as we know Khan gun doesn't produce that type of energy, if you feel it does, post the supporting info. If not, stop making baseless claims that it will work. The reality here is, if Khan's gun doesn't work.. he's curbed and most likely it won't

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You are literally one of he dumbest people I've encountered on this site. This is why you're literally laughed at all over the internet. YOU made the claim the Boolean gun will work on Connor. It's up to you to prove it will. You don't get to shift the burden of proof just because you can't prove your case and are a bumbling moron. Doesn't work that way. We saw him dealing with various weapons just fine and healing from them with utter ease. If you feeling the Boolean gun will work where those other weapons failed PROVE IT. Pops already said the type of weaponry that will have the best chance to take him down or slow him down... As far as we know Khan gun doesn't produce that type of energy, if you feel it does, post the supporting info. If not, stop making baseless claims that it will work. The reality here is, if Khan's gun doesn't work.. he's curbed and most likely it won't

Boolean gun is more powerful than what Connor has tanked. Connor fails. Just like someone saying the death star won't work. If Connor doesn't have the feats to suggest he can tank it be loses. Your lesson is over, inbred. Khan ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cry some more, horse man.

Boolean gun is more powerful than what Connor has tanked. Connor fails. Just like someone saying the death star won't work. If Connor doesn't have the feats to suggest he can tank it be loses. Your lesson is over, inbred. Khan ftw.

Nope ugly, the burden lies DIRECTLY with you short stuff. If you can't prove the Boolean gun can produce that type of energy or produce evidence it can take him down then you concede. So either post the proof in your next post or I accept your concession for everybody and you lose yet another thread. There will be no back and forth here... either post proof it will work or you concede

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nope ugly, the burden lies DIRECTLY with you short stuff. If you can't prove the Boolean gun can produce that type of energy or produce evidence it can take him down then you concede. So either post the proof in your next post or I accept your concession for everybody and you lose yet another thread. There will be no back and forth here... either post proof it will work or you concede

Lol at John Connor becoming a Terminator. Sounds like they really ****ed everything right up with this movie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cry some more, horse man.

Boolean gun is more powerful than what Connor has tanked. Connor fails. Just like someone saying the death star won't work. If Connor doesn't have the feats to suggest he can tank it be loses. Your lesson is over, inbred. Khan ftw.

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