The Batman (2022)

Started by Blakemore82 pages

I'm glad they didn't do an origin story. We all know who Batman is, so just show us Batman.

I thought Penguin and Catwoman were done really well and there were obviously a lot of homages in this, but what made me like it is I've never seen Riddler like this. He really does it for me.

In fact, I'd go as far as say this is a perfect sequel to Batman (89).

Although, there were some silly moments like the use of guns. If you're gonna shoot Batman, shoot him in the face.

8/10

My only problem was how obvious it was Riddler was just toying with Batman the whole time and it made me think that Batman was a fool when I always thought he was cunning. I mean, a rodent with wings? Oh, yeah he must mean the penguin, not a ****ing bat.

Way to long. Thought it was average at best.

6/10

In fact, I'm going to put it down to 7/10. I do remember feeling its length at times as well.

Some else also pointed out how dark the lighting was. I liked the style but, yeah, you can barely see what's happening at times.

It was alright. Not great, not bad. Pattinson was decent, but I honestly think he would be a better Nightwing then Bruce. In fact, whenever I saw him as Bruce I couldn't help but keep thinking to myself how he would have made a much better Nightwing.

6/10.

Desperate attempt at out doing Nolan's trilogy, by going heavy on the "detective" elements, only to show how unsophisticated paltry the detective stuff was.

The Riddler was reduced to an autistic midwit, with a vague /pol/ type of dysfunction. An inferior echo of Joker (from the Joaquim Phoenix movie).

His "riddles" where like primary school word games. His "chaos", simply a Hurricane Katrina copy...

Nothing he did was either original, intriguing, intelligent, thrilling or worthy of occupying any screen time.

They knew that, I think, which is why the Falconi/Penguin dynamic and the is he/isn't he the rat, question was given so much plot time.

John Turturro was awesome. Not seen him in a juicy role, since Quiz Show. He really commanded the scenes. Farrell was also great, though what the point was, of putting him in the film, if you're going to so obscure him with makeup, I don't know. It wasn't like you couldn't get other actors - William H. Macy, for example - to deliver on Penguin?

The narrative was thin, patterned off Nolan's The Dark Knight. With The Riddler even handing himself into the police, before the reveal of his "big plan".

The cinematography, set design and atmosphere conveyed, of Gotham City, was fantastic! They managed to really make it dark and gritty, without the tedium of Nolan's NYC/Gotham. This Gotham had some of that dark fantasy of Tim Robbins' Batman.

Catwoman was a disaster, Maybe don't cast a dwarf triglet as an ass kicking ninja catburglar. I knew it before the casting but, this just reinforced how awesome Anne Hathaway was, as Catwoman (even with the abortion of a Socialist revolutionary character).

Gordon was serviceable but colourless. No Gary Oldman Jim Gordon, this was just "respected black character actor takes white role and owns it" ... only without really doing anything or being anything.

The worst piece of casting was Robert Pattinson, though. And again, this was always going to drag, ever since his name was announced.

He had no emotional range at all. His Bruce Wayne was flatter than the characters in Batman The Animated Series. He "was emo". In every context and scene.

His Batman, neither evoked fear (because he looked like Howard from TBBT in a homemade Batman costume) nor struck awe (because he can't even stick a landing in his flying suit!

And, for all their pretentious attempts at "realism", what was with his landing? He just shook off impacts that should have left him with shattered bones!

Pointless, inappropriate comedy!

Very mediocre, could have been cut down to a less boring 1hr and 30mins.

Originally posted by Blakemore
In fact, I'm going to put it down to 7/10. I do remember feeling its length at times as well.

Some else also pointed out how dark the lighting was. I liked the style but, yeah, you can barely see what's happening at times.

I was actually wavering between 7 and 8, too. I think I'd probably drop to 7/10 as well. It needed to be streamlined a lot.

I'm finding the Anne Hathaway comparisons to this Catwoman weird, considering Hathaway was hardly even "Catwoman" herself; nothing about her costume in TDKR really resembled a cat, nor did she even own a cat in her apartment or anything like every other version of Selina. Maybe Nolan was allergic to cats? Regardless, Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns is the golden standard for the character, not Hathaway's. The Selina in this film I found serviceable enough with that said. I most often don't care much for her character, but her story in this I was okay with.

Emo labels at Pattinson Batman aside, the thing I still like about him most is that he learns that he must not exact vengeance but inspire hope, which was well reflected in the climax.

The criticisms for the Riddler I definitely understand but honestly, he was pretty much what I expected in the film going from the trailers. Making him a cult leader with an online following whom he radicalizes was at least an interesting take, and accurate for the current times.

Michelle Pfeifer was the best Catwoman. Brilliant acting, brilliant directing by Tim Burton and totally bad ass.

Her fight with Batman was both hilarious and awesome for all the right reasons.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Michelle Pfeifer was the best Catwoman. Brilliant acting, brilliant directing by Tim Burton and totally bad ass.

Her fight with Batman was both hilarious and awesome for all the right reasons.

😂

Can I buy some pot from you?

Originally posted by Impediment
😂

Can I buy some pot from you?

Lol. Maybe it's just me then.

Pfeiffer is the gold standard because even if she wasn't as close to the comics as she could have been, they still got the spirit of several aspects of the character and her relationship with Bruce pretty spot on.

Hathaway was fine, but not on that level. I liked Kravitz too, but again, Pfeiffer is still my preferred version.

Also shame on y'all for not including every version.

this film has done very well on hbo max.. it also beat that hack snyder c5nt

https://deadline.com/2022/04/the-batman-hbo-max-viewership-1235009362/

El-Oh-El @ the Rightest incels getting mad because Cat Woman and Gordon where played by non-White actors.

I'm with PR, I liked Pfiefer the best of all the Catwomen. They all did sexy well though, which is a part of the character.

Someone told me this was woke and I didnt get how. When I pushed him he came out with Catwoman being gay.

The incels must have forgotten Catwoman was played by Earths Mae Keith all the way back in the 60s.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Someone told me this was woke and I didnt get how. When I pushed him he came out with Catwoman being gay.

The incels must have forgotten Catwoman was played by Earths Mae Keith all the way back in the 60s.

This Catwoman is bisexual and she has a thing for Batman...

Seems they're upset because she's just another fictional woman who wouldn't **** them, like real women won't.

Originally posted by Robtard
This Catwoman is bisexual and she has a thing for Batman...

Seems they're upset because she's just another fictional woman who wouldn't **** them, like real women won't.

Yeah I figured at least bisexual when he said shes gay, given she was clearly flirting with Batman in the trailers.

That said, in the film her being with a woman was barely even hinted at.

Catwoman has been bisexual in the comics for years. This is not new information. ****ing hell.

Pretty sure its her skin colour that triggered incels more.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Pretty sure its her skin colour that triggered incels more.

That's even weirder, because Kravitz is pale as ****. I get that she's technically not white, but come on.

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I saw they already greenlit a sequel. Good stuff.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Catwoman has been bisexual in the comics for years. This is not new information. ****ing hell.
Yeah, I thought that too.

She's not exactly a conformist of anything and just does what feels good or gets her where she wants to be.

I got the feeling she wasn't really into Batman, but tried it to get ahead, which is how I see Catwoman.

Must be because of the skin tone. I imagine they'd get annoyed at there being a black politician and annoyed that she survived a gunshot, but not the gunshot itself, the survival.