Democrats allegedly want to get rid of "husband" and "wife"
http://www.hngn.com/articles/108369/20150710/democrats-declare-war-words-husband-wife.htm
Am trying to find any non conservative news articles on this. But this is interesting if true, if not downright idiotic.
Meh, this is talking about in law. I.e. something written for technical accuracy, not for, y'know, what people are normally called.
Like the article notes: "Capps goes on to mention other advantages the bill would provide if it became law. In one example, she noted that U.S. law says that it's illegal to threaten the president's wife, but says nothing about the president's husband. The bill would protect the husband as well by changing the "wife" to "spouse." "
It's just closing legal loopholes, not declaring a 'war on the words husband and wife.'
Once again, conservatives raising a panic over nothing. The article may phrase it in a sensationalist way, but that's seriously about the most boring topic I can think of judging by the actual information inside of it.
"Over two dozen Democrats have proposed legislation that would eliminate the words "husband" and "wife" from federal law."
There is a big difference between eliminating words from everyday life and eliminating words from federal law.
If they eliminated the words from federal law, there is nothing to stop people from using the words in everyday life.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why can't we say it's illegal to threaten the presidents wife or husband? Are we paying for these laws by the word, or something? If so we have a lot more to worry about then the wording of certain laws.
Ugh, you're missing the point.
Right now, there's several laws that say husband or wife, but not both (i.e. the law only include a single word in that slot, like, just-wife, it doesn't say 'wife or husband'😉, even when the situation can apply to either, so right now, the other spouse would be uncovered by the law if the entered the situation. A first husband would not have the protections of a first lady at the moment.
Laws that say 'husband and wife' or 'husband or wife' are no problem whatsoever, but they want to change the ones that only mention one of those to cover both.
And there's an existing english word for that: Spouse.
If we didn't have the word spouse, it'd be 'husband and wife/wife and husband,' but since we do have the word spouse, is there a particular reason to expand the word count and use the whole phrase? Not that I can see. I doubt it even occurred to them because it's simply smoother english, but the phrase and 'spouse' are, legally speaking, interchangeable, they just happened to use one rather than the other, but the important thing is it covers both.
Short version: This is a legal semantic change which is neither encouraging nor discouraging the usage of any word in any day to day sense, but purely to close loopholes that could make for problems.
Is everyone done panicking now?
Originally posted by psmith81992
Nobody is panicking, I thought it was just an interesting topic. I don't think anybody takes democrat lawmakers seriously.
Dmb and Surtur were panicking. Heck, the original article had a title that reeked of panic. 'Declare war on words'? A sensationalist freak-out not remotely justified by their own content.
Like I said, this isn't silly in the least, it's fixing a simple and obvious loophole. What was being proposed is actually really sensible and straightforward, and is in anticipation of a situation highly likely to occur in the near future.
Democrats, if you'll recall, are the ones who actually try and get things done nowadays, and even succeed when given a chance (like the health care bill, which was a smashing success- insurance for millions and under budget), rather than make empty noise and take pride in not doing anything like their opposite numbers, and throwing temper tantrums when they can't get votes (Opponents passed something they don't like? Threaten to crash the economy, actually shut down the government, costing tens of billions of dollars + unknown amount of economic side effects).
I'm sorry, the democrats are trying to get things done? The AFA was a smashing success? The Republicans threaten to crash the economy/shut the government down? I must get your sources. Everytime there's a president that 's one party, the other party ****s with him. It happened with the Bush family, as well as Regan. The only time everyone worked together was during the Clinton administration, so I doubt you were out there complaining about the Democrats messing with everything Bush was doing. Again, this reeks of baseless bias and I would love to see your sources.
This is similar to this thread, which dealt with the same issue as California did it.
It was a good idea then, and it is a good idea now. Spouse is a perfectly fine and gender neutral word, making it easier for laws not to discriminate, and on top of that, it makes the legal text shorter and solves a couple other stylistic problems.
Oh yeah... they get things done alright. Like granting amnesty to millions of criminals, trying to take away gun rights from veterans, giving out food stamps/welfare to millions that don't deserve it, persecuting Christians, making stupid laws like net neutrality, race baiting, weakening our military, not taking the advice of our top military advisors to protect our extremely vulnerable outdated power grid from an EMP strike which would send us back to the Dark Ages if it happens, firing our best military leaders and replacing them with peole who are inexperienced because he wants people who won't hesitate to question his authority when he unlawfully finally declares martial law, destroying traditional Christian values, showing more respect to Allah than the One true God, etc, etc, etc,...Basically just promoting their overall socialistic agenda and destroying America. Yeah, democrats get things done alright. 👆
LMAO.
Originally posted by psmith81992
I'm sorry, the democrats are trying to get things done? The AFA was a smashing success? The Republicans threaten to crash the economy/shut the government down? I must get your sources. Everytime there's a president that 's one party, the other party ****s with him. It happened with the Bush family, as well as Regan. The only time everyone worked together was during the Clinton administration, so I doubt you were out there complaining about the Democrats messing with everything Bush was doing. Again, this reeks of baseless bias and I would love to see your sources.
Everyone who isn't blind knows that Q99, just like most people on this forum, think democrats can do no wrong and are the greatest thing to come along since sliced bread. It's actually pretty hilarious how they pathetically defend them by making lame excuses for their outrageous behavior and/or policies.