Democrats allegedly want to get rid of "husband" and "wife"

Started by psmith819923 pages

Sure Rob. Just stop being angry and copying me to show your transparency..

*Waits for a similar rebuttal*

Originally posted by Robtard
You and your silly games, I'll leave you to them.

Can we cut out this ridiculous feud in the threads, please?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I was just misled by the title.
At first glance, so was I. Perhaps it's news sensationalism we should be decrying. "Democrats Declare War..."

I gotcha declaration right here.

Stories like that rely on people who just read titles.

I was busy with a limited schedule. In different circumstances I would've read the full article, and in these circumstances, I chose to read it at a more convenient time.

I apologize if it seems like I'm getting defensive, but I haven't posted here much and would rather people not get a bad first impression of me.

No worries, I wasn't bashing on you, just pointing out the nature of stories like that.

Dave, this is a bit of a poor showing. Before Q99 gave you some really good practical considerations about the technical phrasing of the law, you dismissed the move as "idiotic." Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I suspect you were considering this a move in some sort of "progressive" editing of the language to forcibly normalize nontraditional relationships. However, even if that were your underlying concern you have yet to give even a single argument about why or how a change in federal writing style could achieve that sort of result. Immediately denouncing the (perceived) goal as idiotic does not actually constitute an argument for why it is such.

Attacking the grammar, style, or speed of another member's posts is basically a conscious derail. (I've never understood your fascination with response time.) I figure that once you make a post consisting entirely of tone-sniping, you've conceded the point.

(As a former law student, shouldn't you know which tactics show the audience/jury that you don't have any content to build a substantive case?)

Dave, this is a bit of a poor showing. Before Q99 gave you some really good practical considerations about the technical phrasing of the law, you dismissed the move as "idiotic." Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I suspect you were considering this a move in some sort of "progressive" editing of the language to forcibly normalize nontraditional relationships. However, even if that were your underlying concern you have yet to give even a single argument about why or how a change in federal writing style could achieve that sort of result. Immediately denouncing the (perceived) goal as idiotic does not actually constitute an argument for why it is such.

It was idiotic before Q99 wrote that out, meaning I haven't thought about that, and I gave him his kudos. I would think you out of all people wouldn't complain that someone had an "aha" moment when someone else thought about it. I posted the topic because I didn't think about it. As for Rob, there wasn't an argument involved. I just enjoy watching him misspell words and then backpedal. There was no relevance whatsoever.

No I mean, like, trying to put myself into your shoes at the very beginning of the thread, the only reason for you to be upset is some sort of social engineering like in 1984.

BUT, this change doesn't accomplish anything close to that kind of social manipulation. So, I'm saying that even before Q99 gave you a good reason to make the change, there was no reason to oppose the change.

I wrote that last message v late at night, didn't mean it to be an insult about your behavior AFTER you read Q99's post. Sorry if that was unclear.

No I mean, like, trying to put myself into your shoes at the very beginning of the thread, the only reason for you to be upset is some sort of social engineering like in 1984.

I wasn't upset. I thought after skimming through this, it was idiotic. I only posted it to get informed opinions, because I didn't have a valid opinion myself. So it may have been a little presumptuous.

lets just learn from this mistake, grow, and move forward.

1. That's a nice picture. Separate from anything else in this thread, I like that picture.

2. Language has the power to change how people think.

I'm still wondering how people can call a thrice-married father of at least four children "Caitlin".

I'm also wondering how people think propaganda actually WORKS in the real world, assuming they think about it at all.

Do they believe the successful campaigns are some major ultra-serious exercise put into people's heads at gunpoint? Or is successful propaganda a series of little things that can be easily laughed off, things that are all but subliminal, below people's full conscious awareness?

it's not subliminal.

successful propaganda is as simple as feeding a group-serving bias by telling their echo-chamber exactly what they want to hear. the facts are irrelevant since most will tend to ignore any valid contradictory points and group-howl dissenting opinions into silence.

thats why threads like this, based on articles written purely to be dishonest and deliberate deceitful, are taken as scripture and are so vehemently defended by the group which the lie serves.

Silly thread.