Oozaru Vegeta vs. Goku

Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga):

VS.

Goku (Namek Saga):

-Both combatants start at full power.
-This is Goku when he first appeared on Namek(pre-zenkai.)
-Assume there is a permanent/indestructible full-moon in the sky.
-No tail cutting.

How's it go?

Their PL's are about equal iirc, but Goku has the advantage of being more maneuverable being smaller. And, as he showed in the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta's vulnerable parts(I mean his eyes you pervs) are much larger and eaiser to attack. I'm giving it to Goku for now

Iirc, Goku said that Vegeta became faster when he went ape. Don't know if this was said only in the Anime though.

I'm leaning towards the "smaller and more manuverable, but hits just as hard" camp.

But that Godzilla attack seemed pretty powerful, and required no charge or telegraphing at all.

Originally posted by carver9
Iirc, Goku said that Vegeta became faster when he went ape. Don't know if this was said only in the Anime though.

Originally posted by cdtm
But that Godzilla attack seemed pretty powerful, and required no charge or telegraphing at all.

That mouth-beam was pretty uber:

Yeah, but he was still able to somewhat avoid him. While Namek Goku was toying with the much faster Burter and Jeice, and moving so fast Vegeta couldn't even see him move.

^ Vegeta was very weakened when he became an Oozaru--his PL wasn't remotely close to its peak. IOW, his performance there isn't indicative of what he can do at full power.

Goku KKx2 ftw.

Despite having pretty much identical power levels(~180,000), I actually agree that Goku might have the edge due to sheer speed/maneuverability. The big "?" for me is how exactly Goku can win? I'm not sure a Kamehameha can do the trick, and he certainly can't sustain Kaio-Ken indefinitely.

Thoughts..?

Goku wasn't dodging Vegeta during his ape form imo. It looked as if Vegeta was toying with him while hitting him almost every time.

I highly doubt Vegeta, even Oozaru Vegeta was Burter fast. Goku should be able to win here

Yea saiyan saga Goku was giving Oozaru Vegata some trouble. Gokuf ro Namek saga should take this

^ Oozaru Vegeta was nowhere near his peak, though. That's like me using Goku's showings when he was fully infected by the heart disease, as a means to prove how inept he was during the Android saga.

Anyway, when Vegeta's PL was around 30,000, he was still able to track Goku's movements while he was fighting the Ginyu Force. Given that his Oozaru form would be 6x more powerful AND have extremely heightened ape-senses, I don't know why he couldn't do at least the same thing here..? Even IF you presume his physical speed was neutered when he became an Oozaru(and it did NOT appear to have been, mind you), surely he can still counter Goku's speed with those insta-mouth-beams, at the very least..?

Yea I see what you are saying. I just dont know.

True he was not 100% but neither was the Goku that was giving him trouble.

Originally posted by bbrem123
True he was not 100% but neither was the Goku that was giving him trouble.

His KaioKen-amped speed and whatnot counted for nothing against Oozaru-Vegeta.

Yea I guess you are right. Other than getting him in the eye he didn't do much.

He did get his tail cut off by Yajirobe though...

I swear. When DBZ characters are off there guard they are so vulnerable. Look at what just happened to Goku from a Zarbon level character...

Might actually explain Vegeta being able to damage Beerus too

Originally posted by Galan007
Despite having pretty much identical power levels(~180,000), I actually agree that Goku might have the edge due to sheer speed/maneuverability. The big "?" for me is how exactly Goku can win? I'm not sure a Kamehameha can do the trick, and he certainly can't sustain Kaio-Ken indefinitely.

Thoughts..?

Can he grab the tail, if not rip it? Should theoretically hurt him, unless he trained it like Goku did back in early Dragon Ball.

Yea I dont think that works. They tried on Nappa. I am almost 100% sure it would be no different on Vegeta

Originally posted by bbrem123
Yea I dont think that works. They tried on Nappa. I am almost 100% sure it would be no different on Vegeta

Nappa's also much, much stronger though. The whole point of tail training is to prevent weaklings from exploiting it. Doesn't mean it will hold up against someone of equal strength.