Iranian Agreement goes through

"No one wants this deal" except 48% of the sampling base in that poll. 52% of Americans can and have been wrong before about foreign policy matters.

Polls aren't relevant to determining what the proper course of action is in foreign policy, only to gauge which course of action will be popular or unpopular. I'm sure if you took a poll about whether the United States should be more aggressive (up to and including military action) with Iran, most Americans would also be against that, probably to a higher degree.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
"No one wants this deal" except 48% of the sampling base in that poll. 52% of Americans can and have been wrong before about foreign policy matters.

Polls aren't relevant to determining what the proper course of action is in foreign policy, only to gauge which course of action will be popular or unpopular. I'm sure if you took a poll about whether the United States should be more aggressive (up to and including military action) with Iran, most Americans would also be against that, probably to a higher degree.

The guy who made the deal has no clue about secret side deals, and has admitted cmon now. You can't spin this.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The guy who made the deal has no clue about secret side deals, and has admitted cmon now. You can't spin this.

I agree that we need to know what's in these side-deals before we think of ratifying the treaty, but until we can look them over you're just foaming at the mouth over what could be rather minor clauses that don't do anything particularly nefarious.

You know they are not letting inspectors in with a deal.

Tell me at least that the leader of Iran has denounced any type of violence towards Israel?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well, you're clearly convinced of this. As there's no hard evidence to believe the deal won't work, just speculation, I'll remain optimistic until facts on the ground change.

Where does your opinion rest on the matter of there seeming to be a way for the 24 day period to be extended to roughly 3 months?

Originally posted by Surtur
Tell me at least that the leader of Iran has denounced any type of violence towards Israel?

Where does your opinion rest on the matter of there seeming to be a way for the 24 day period to be extended to roughly 3 months?

No he has not. And there is no getting around the 3 month delay other then saying "A bad deal is better then no deal" or "How many inspections have we had before." Which is what he will say.

Okay the leader hasn't denounced these claims of wanting to wipe Israel off the map. Has he at least...not ever shown support for them? Or never shown support for people who outright say they want to wipe Israel out?

Obama has likely doomed us all with his stupidity:

http://survivalinstitute.com/how-obama-made-ww3-inevitable/

Shh, people don't want to hear about the bad. Just stuck on their iPhones till the big ones go off.

Originally posted by Star428
Obama has likely doomed us all with his stupidity:

http://survivalinstitute.com/how-obama-made-ww3-inevitable/

This is silly, Iran could do the same thing with or without the agreement, Obama did not make WW3 inevitable, at best he sped it up. But also he may have slowed it down. Bottomline, we will never know.

We will know.

Originally posted by Bentley
This is silly, Iran could do the same thing with or without the agreement, Obama did not make WW3 inevitable, at best he sped it up. But also he may have slowed it down. Bottomline, we will never know.

The agreement makes it much easier though. The United States (nor any other NATO country) should be making friends with Iran no matter the circumstances. It's not "silly". It's common friggin' sense. Did you watch the video near the bottom of article? Did you hear the part where the Iranians were shouting "Death to America! Death to America!"? These people are not our friends. Anyone who thinks they are or that they will keep up their end of agreement is unbelievably naive.

Besides, anyone with a functioning brain in their head knows how much Obama respects Muslims and hates Israel (not to mention America). I think he realizes that this deal will make it easier for Iran to attack Israel with nukes. He wants it to happen it seems to me.

Star I just thought about something, most of the ninnys that want this deal here are in Europe, the first people to get nuked. They will be our early warning system. So no worries.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Star I just thought about something, most of the ninnys that want this deal here are in Europe, the first people to get nuked. They will be our early warning system. So no worries.

Unfortunately, no. Our friend Israel will be the ones to get nuked first probably. They're the ones Iran hates almost as much as they do us.

Joking aside, I think they will bomb Iran before we do, sounds like half of congress wants to bomb Iran at this point, this deal is not going to hold up.

Obama can chant "Iran deal" all day, but they are chanting "Death to America"

http://time.com/3979692/obama-grassroots-iran-deal/

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Joking aside, I think they will bomb Iran before we do, sounds like half of congress wants to bomb Iran at this point, this deal is not going to hold up.

I honestly wouldn't blame Israel for attacking Iran before Iran gets a chance to build up a nuclear arsenal. Obama has basically backed them (Israel) into a corner and given them a death sentence thereby forcing their hand. Attacking Iran first would be self defense at this point. Israeli's are well aware how Iran, just like everybody else in the ME, hates them.

Originally posted by Star428
Obama has likely doomed us all with his stupidity:

http://survivalinstitute.com/how-obama-made-ww3-inevitable/

A bunch of people planning for armageddon are saying armageddon's coming? Wow!

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We will know.

You don't know what would've happened without the deal, so you won't know.

Unless you come from an alternative future?

Naysayers should listen to this interview NPR did with the former chief of Mossad.

http://www.npr.org/2015/07/31/427990359/ex-mossad-chief-supports-iran-nuclear-deal

He recognizes the limitations of the agreement while pointing out how unrealistic any alternative might have been. I especially appreciate his comment that "in international relations, a decade is an eternity"

Originally posted by Bentley
You don't know what would've happened without the deal, so you won't know.

Unless you come from an alternative future?

I do, from the one where France no longer exists, an Monaco is the Capital of the World.