Iranian Agreement goes through

Started by psmith8199241 pages

Right. It is a fairly well-defended stable nation with it's own culture and who, like it or not, acts as a rational actor.

It's not run by an impulsive warlord like some of it's neighbors, and is organized enough that it'd be quite a problem if we did go to war- it'd hurt to fight Iran more than it hurt to fight Iraq.


You do know that the Ayatollah is every bit as influential as the president, right?

If it's 'for them to not declare war on Israel,' then that's even easier.,

That one is more difficult because Israel wouldn't hesitate to wipe them off the map, like Iran is promising to do to Israel.

They're hostile, but they're willing to negotiate, and almost certainly that'll include stuff like relations with Israel, where we've already convinced multiple countries to change their stances before.

They will NOT negotiate with Iran. That's being incredibly naive. I still believe the sanctions were weak in a jumbled attempt to get some kind of agreement going.

Originally posted by Q99
Again, not actually two weeks notice.

There is the matter that there's real arrangements that need to be made, some stuff turned off so it can be inspect, travel arrangements so people can get there, etc..

So how many days notice, then?

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:
"The world is a much more dangerous place today than it was yesterday.

The leading international powers have bet our collective future on a deal with the foremost sponsor of international terrorism. They've gambled that in ten years' time, Iran's terrorist regime will change while removing any incentive for it to do so. In fact, the deal gives Iran every incentive not to change.

In the coming decade, the deal will reward Iran, the terrorist regime in Tehran, with hundreds of billions of dollars. This cash bonanza will fuel Iran's terrorism worldwide, its aggression in the region and its efforts to destroy Israel, which are ongoing.

Amazingly, this bad deal does not require Iran to cease its aggressive behavior in any way. And just last Friday, that aggression was on display for all to see.

While the negotiators were closing the deal in Vienna, Iran's supposedly moderate President chose to go to a rally in Tehran and at this rally, a frenzied mob burned American and Israeli flags and chanted 'Death to America, Death to Israel!'

Now, this didn't happen four years ago. It happened four days ago.

Iran's Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei, said on March 21 that the deal does not limit Iran's aggression in any way. He said: 'Negotiations with the United States are on the nuclear issue and on nothing else.'

And three days ago he made that clear again. 'The United States', he said, 'embodies global arrogance, and the battle against it will continue unabated even after the nuclear agreement is concluded.'

Here's what Hassan Nasrallah, the head of Iran's terrorist proxy Hezbollah, said about sanctions relief, which is a key component of the deal. He said: 'A rich and strong Iran will be able to stand by its allies and friends in the region more than at any time in the past.'

Translation: Iran's support for terrorism and subversion will actually increase after the deal.

In addition to filling Iran's terror war chest, this deal repeats the mistakes made with North Korea.

There too we were assured that inspections and verifications would prevent a rogue regime from developing nuclear weapons.

And we all know how that ended.

The bottom line of this very bad deal is exactly what Iran's President Rouhani said today: 'The international community is removing the sanctions and Iran is keeping its nuclear program.'

By not dismantling Iran's nuclear program, in a decade this deal will give an unreformed, unrepentant and far richer terrorist regime the capacity to produce many nuclear bombs, in fact an entire nuclear arsenal with the means to deliver it.

What a stunning historic mistake!

Israel is not bound by this deal with Iran and Israel is not bound by this deal with Iran because Iran continues to seek our destruction.

We will always defend ourselves.

Thoughts?

Obama caved on every major point here. All the sanctions have been lifted and they will have a bomb within 10 years.

Iran is suing us now😂

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/iran-court-order-us-50-billion-damages-120026.html

What is awesome is Bibi said he is not honoring this deal.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Thoughts?
My thoughts are we need to wait and see what happens.

The main thing about this deal was to get us access and help force limitations on Iran's Nuclear program.

This deal has all the ability to give us that. Now it's time to wait and see.

As it stand though at the very least this shows the US is willing to work with other countries and we're not just going to do what we want when we want at the detriment of all parties involved including the US' own interests.

Because playing it tough in the past has not helped our image and it has not helped topple or stop creation of horrible governments. Even Iraq has seemingly blown up in our face.

Lol, yea and you believe what Obama says, like "Oh you can keep your doctor, and your insurance premiums will go down"

All lies. You are are so easy to fool.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What is awesome is Bibi said he is not honoring this deal.

Netanyahu's probably dick-waving, as to not show weakness in the eyes of Israelis, especially the more conservatives.

But if Israel's not willing to give Iran the chance, maybe it's Israel that needs a heavy-hand instead of Iran.

Originally posted by Robtard
Netanyahu's probably dick-waving, as to not show weakness in the eyes of Israelis, especially the more conservatives.

But if Israel's not willing to give Iran the chance, maybe it's Israel that needs a heavy-hand instead of Iran.

So its dick waving when Bibi does it, but empty threats when Iran talks about wiping them off the face of the earth, as well as the US.

Obama has started a nuclear arms race, SA has had no problem with Israel having nukes, now the Saudi's are going to start acquiring nukes because of Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11617339/Is-Saudi-Arabia-trying-to-get-nuclear-weapons.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/world/saudi-pakistan-nuclear-report/

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So its dick waving when Bibi does it, but empty threats when Iran talks about wiping them off the face of the earth, as well as the US.

I meant 'showing toughness and manliness' with "dick waving" there. Not "Bibi wants to nuke Iran".

To your edit/addition: Didn't read the story, but what's your beef with SA having nukes? They're an ally like Israel and I don't see you complaining about Israel's nukes. Also, the deal stops Iran from acquiring nukes.

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This deal allows them to have conventional weapons in 5 years and ballistic missiles in 8 years. It also allows the to sell oil and weapons on the open market. And will give them instantly almost $140 billion in tied up funds due to sanctions.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This deal allows them to have conventional weapons in 5 years and ballistic missiles in 8 years. It also allows the to sell oil and weapons on the open market. And will give them instantly almost $140 billion in tied up funds due to sanctions.

I wonder what they'll do with all that money in terms of fighting Israel.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This deal allows them to have conventional weapons in 5 years and ballistic missiles in 8 years. It also allows the to sell oil and weapons on the open market. And will give them instantly almost $140 billion in tied up funds due to sanctions.

I'm sorry, are you saying Iran can't even be allowed to have conventional weapons and to sell their oil and weapons like many other countries already do?

Originally posted by psmith81992
I wonder what they'll do with all that money in terms of fighting Israel.

I suspect Israel will strike first as they are not bound by this deal.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm sorry, are you saying Iran can't even be allowed to have conventional weapons and to sell their oil and weapons like many other countries already do?

Not until they stop sponsoring terror and stop chanting death o Israel and America. And stop saying wiping Israel off the map is non negotiable.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Iran is suing us now😂

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/iran-court-order-us-50-billion-damages-120026.html

Well there is no chance we'd ever pay them any money for these "damages" right? Even Obama isn't that stupid.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well there is no chance we'd ever pay them any money for these "damages" right? Even Obama isn't that stupid.

With Obama in office, anything could happen, like this horrible deal.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Thoughts?

The man is an utter moron.