Iranian Agreement goes through

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Originally posted by jaden101
The man is an utter moron.

Based on what? He's coming from a position of defending his nation from 20+ arab nations intent on wiping him out.

Originally posted by jaden101
The man is an utter moron.

And what brings your to this conclusion?

The fact that you two right wing nutters are so quick to jump to his defence is all the argument I need.

Originally posted by jaden101
The fact that you two right wing nutters are so quick to jump to his defence is all the argument I need.

Welp, the idiot left makes my case for me again. Too easy

Originally posted by psmith81992
Welp, the idiot left makes my case for me again. Too easy

And yet you know nothing about my politics.

We'll examine your argument though. "20+ arab countries want to see Israel wiped out"

Well there's only 21 Arab countries anyway and 2 of those have full diplomatic relations with Israel (Egypt and Jordan). So that takes it to 19 and nullifies your shitty premise straight away. The majority that don't have diplomatic relations don't have an agenda either way towards Israel. Saudi Arabia has on several occasions tried to foster negotiations with Israel which have been flat out rejected. Syria has limited relations. Lebanon is considering an non aggression pact with Israel and relations are on the up. 3 of the Arab countries relationships with Israel are inconsequential anyway namely Djibouti, Mauritania and cormoros. The main country of any consequence is Iran which has elected a reformist government and is at least now making its first steps at improving relations on the global stage which is a lot more than can be said for Israel which only ever seems to elect right wing insular and antagonistic regimes or even more extreme right wing openly hostile regimes.

Originally posted by jaden101
The fact that you two right wing nutters are so quick to jump to his defence is all the argument I need.

And the democrats who are speaking out against this deal are right wing nutters as well? CNN even says this is a bad deal.

The majority that don't have diplomatic relations don't have an agenda either way towards Israel

This begs proof, which you conveniently ignored.
Saudi Arabia has on several occasions tried to foster negotiations with Israel which have been flat out rejected. Syria has limited relations. Lebanon is considering an non aggression pact with Israel and relations are on the up.

Syria has been anti Israel for the past 50 years. Whether the relations are limited or not right now is irrelevant. Lebanon is the same way. I'm not sure where you are getting your information. You conveniently forgot the majority of the Arab league, not surprising. So yes, my 20+ premise was slightly incorrect, while the majority of your argument lacks any kind of evidence. Not surprising at all. And yea, Israel is going to be antagonistic to those who are seeking its extermination. Good try though 👆

Originally posted by psmith81992
This begs proof, which you conveniently ignored.

Syria has been anti Israel for the past 50 years. Whether the relations are limited or not right now is irrelevant. Lebanon is the same way. I'm not sure where you are getting your information. You conveniently forgot the majority of the Arab league, not surprising. So yes, my 20+ premise was slightly incorrect, while the majority of your argument lacks any kind of evidence. Not surprising at all. And yea, Israel is going to be antagonistic to those who are seeking its extermination. Good try though 👆

Its been said on here before by people like Omega that they consider Iran's threat's mere chest beating and empty words.

Of coarse anything, they ignore that this program will allow them to research advanced centrifuges and this gives them a direct path to a nuke.

Now with the sanction relief and the cash infusion of near $140 billion, this will jump start their economy and allow more funding for R&D.

Saudia Arabia and many other countries are appalled at this deal and will now seek out nukes.

Also there are no snap inspections, Iran will sit on the inspection board and can delay the inspection for up to 24 days. Thus allowing them time to hide, move anything they need to.

After 8-10 years, all this is dead in the water and they will have a nuke.

Originally posted by psmith81992
This begs proof, which you conveniently ignored.

Syria has been anti Israel for the past 50 years. Whether the relations are limited or not right now is irrelevant. Lebanon is the same way. I'm not sure where you are getting your information. You conveniently forgot the majority of the Arab league, not surprising. So yes, my 20+ premise was slightly incorrect, while the majority of your argument lacks any kind of evidence. Not surprising at all. And yea, Israel is going to be antagonistic to those who are seeking its extermination. Good try though 👆

If you're going to claim that 20+ arab countries aim to see Israel wiped out the onus is on you to back up your claim. Your statement is not slightly incorrect. It was a complete fabrication.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And the democrats who are speaking out against this deal are right wing nutters as well? CNN even says this is a bad deal.

What anyone else is or isn't saying about this deal doesn't change your blatant right wing nut politics though does it?

If you're going to claim that 20+ arab countries aim to see Israel wiped out the onus is on you to back up your claim. Your statement is not slightly incorrect. It was a complete fabrication.

As was most of your post. Sorry, I'll change it to 10. Shifting burden of proof while proving baseless statements...Is that a thing now?

What anyone else is or isn't saying about this deal doesn't change your blatant right wing nut politics though does it?

Spoken like a hardcore liberal. Lets not pretend we don't "know" your affiliations. When your first course of action is to scream "right wing nut", we know where you fit in.

Originally posted by jaden101
What anyone else is or isn't saying about this deal doesn't change your blatant right wing nut politics though does it?

So I'm crazy for not wanting a radical nation intent on killing us and Israel? Are you even aware of what you say?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So I'm crazy for not wanting a radical nation intent on killing us and Israel? Are you even aware of what you say?

The fact that you would even make this statement shows how little you know about the way politics is shifting in Iran. You simply see the name 'iran' and instantly conjure up all the demonisation you've been fed over the years as if any government running Iran is indistinguishable from the previous administrations. I'm almost willing to bet, in your mind, there's no difference between Ahmadinejad and Rouhani. Fact is the Rouhani's election is only the first step in a change that will transform Iranian politics over the next 20 years driven by a massive shift in politics amongst the younger generations in Iran. Some are considering this to be Iran's Berlin Wall moment.

Some are considering this to be Iran's Berlin Wall moment.

I would love to find out where you get your hilariously misinformed sources. And as along as Khomeini is the spiritual leader, Iran will still be Iran. This is just amusing.

Originally posted by jaden101
The fact that you would even make this statement shows how little you know about the way politics is shifting in Iran. You simply see the name 'iran' and instantly conjure up all the demonisation you've been fed over the years as if any government running Iran is indistinguishable from the previous administrations. I'm almost willing to bet, in your mind, there's no difference between Ahmadinejad and Rouhani. Fact is the Rouhani's election is only the first step in a change that will transform Iranian politics over the next 20 years driven by a massive shift in politics amongst the younger generations in Iran. Some are considering this to be Iran's Berlin Wall moment.

Fact: Rouhani just attended a ralley in Tehran 5 days ago where there was chanting death to America and Israel and burning our flags.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iranians-burn-us-flag-chant-death-to-israel/

Anything else you need me to strike down?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Fact: Rouhani just attended a ralley in Tehran 5 days ago where there was chanting death to America and Israel and burning our flags.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iranians-burn-us-flag-chant-death-to-israel/

Anything else you need me to strike down?

That doesn't go anywhere near addressing my point though does it? Your willful ignorance of the changing political landscape of iran still shines through. You clearly have no intent on educating yourself on it either.

Originally posted by jaden101
That doesn't go anywhere near addressing my point though does it? Your willful ignorance of the changing political landscape of iran still shines through. You clearly have no intent on educating yourself on it either.

Hahaha!!!

You said the leadership has changed! I just proved to you it has not!

Nice try backing out though.

Also they are suppressing any change from the younger population.

Your statement is not slightly incorrect. It was a complete fabrication.

Its like they have had the wool pulled over and just gave up on everything to praise Obama.