Originally posted by Star428
LOL. I' m amazed at how many people are so naive on this forum. Anyone who thinks Iran would think twice about using nukes against Israel is living in some of alternate reality dreamworld. WTF up, libtards.
You understand that pretty much everyone believes Iran to be a rational actor. What could they possibly get out of nuking Israel?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
They clinging to "Oh well that have not directly said we are going to nuke them."but..
"We getting nukes soon😂"
Its like no one played connect the dots as a kid.
Considering Israel's retaliation would completely cripple the country, let along that the US might join in and completely vitrify Iran, why would Iran start a nuclear war?
edit: Never mind, you're going with the "religious lunatics" angle.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When they start world war 3, what are you going to say? Oh well it was Bushs fault?How can you not see what's coming?
If they start world war 3, and you and me survive it, I'll buy you a contaminated beer and concede that you were correct.
I don't see it happening though.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The satisfaction in knowing they followed Mohammad.
Exactly. It's like the majority of people in the GDF were born yesterday. Anybody who's been around for a while knows that Iranians are not "rational" by any means. Destroying Israel and the U.S. are what they desire more than anything else. They think it's Allah's command and they don't care if they will get destroyed in the process of carrying out what they think is his order because they think he will reward them in the afterlife. FFS, they were dancing in the streets when the tragedy happened on 9/11. Recently, on same day that this deal was signed, they were burning American and Israeli flags and chanting "Death to America! Death to Israel! Many suicide bombers come from Iran. Anyone who thinks their "rational" isn't very bright. It's obvious to anyone who isn't blind that they wouldn't hesitate to die for what they believe is the most noble of all causes: The destruction of Israel and the U.S..
Originally posted by Star428
Exactly. It's like the majority of people in the GDF were born yesterday.Anybody who's been around for a while knows that Iranians are not "rational" by any means. Destroying Israel and the U.S. are what they desire more than anything else. They think it's Allah's command and they don't care if they will get destroyed in the process of carrying out what they think is his order because they think he will reward them in the afterlife. FFS, they were dancing in the streets when the tragedy happened on 9/11. Recently, on same day that this deal was signed, they were burning American and Israeli flags and chanting "Death to America! Death to Israel! Many suicide bombers come from Iran. Anyone who thinks their "rational" isn't very bright. It's obvious to anyone who isn't blind that they wouldn't hesitate to die for what they believe is the most noble of all causes: The destruction of Israel and the U.S..
Should be noted that until a few months ago, Star428 was not aware that the US and Iran were allies prior to the 79' Iranian Revolution.
Originally posted by Robtard
Should be noted that until a few months ago, Star428 was not aware that the US and Iran were allies prior to the 79' Iranian Revolution.
Should also be noted that he is likely oblivious of the Iran contra affair and which country stoked the hatred between Israel and Iran by selling arms to both sides.
Former Republican Senator Lugar talks in support of the deal
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a key voice in the Democratic Party leadership, has announced that he will not support the international agreement designed to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. We realize that all senators must balance their concerns about the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action against the consequences for the United States if Washington rejects it. We just do not agree with how the senator balances up the account. Here's why:Schumer's explanation did not go into his views on the consequences of rejection. He says he will vote against the deal not because he believes "war is a viable option" or "to challenge the path of diplomacy." Instead, his reasoning is based on his belief that "Iran will not change." The deal, however, is not about trusting Iran, changing its regime or even avoiding war. It is about preventing Tehran from getting a nuclear weapon.
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Rejection would also destroy the effective coalition that brought Iran to the negotiating table. China and Russia would likely resume trade with Iran. U.S. allies, unsettled by Washington's behavior, would move their own separate ways.The other five negotiators would likely have little stomach for going back to Iran "for a better deal." The ambassadors of the five countries recently assured members of Congress that their governments would not return to the negotiating table should Washington reject the agreement.
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Tehran would be the winner of this U.S. rejection because it would achieve its major objective: the lifting of most sanctions without being required to accept constraints on its nuclear program. Iran could also claim to be a victim of American perfidy and try to convince other nations to break with U.S. leadership and with the entire international sanctions regime.Meanwhile, Israel would be the loser, as Iran would resume its nuclear program without inspections and would garner support from other nations around the world. Ninety countries, including Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, have already supported the deal. Though Israel opposes it, many key Israelis do not, including retired senior generals and a former Mossad leader.
And there's more in the article, but that's the jist of it.
Very respected Republican voice, lays down the purely pragmatic reasons to accept the deal, and smacks down one of the (democrat) naysayers quite well.
Originally posted by jaden101
Should also be noted that he is likely oblivious of the Iran contra affair and which country stoked the hatred between Israel and Iran by selling arms to both sides.
Iran has always hated both Israel and U.S.. Besides, does the Iran contra affair have any relevance whatsoever to signing a bad deal with Iran which'll actually make it easier for them to get nuclear weapons?
I don't think so.