Majin Vegeta vs. Mr. Buu

Started by Sj_Sharp2 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
I think you lost yourself in that argument. Literally nothing there implies that SSJ2 Vegeta(post-resurrection)=SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. If anything, it implies the former was much weaker than the latter. 😕

Vegeta was still dead when he faced Kid Boo as a Ssj2, while he was resurrected only after the Namekians gathered the DB: resurrected Vegeta =/= Ssj2 Vegeta at Kid Boo.

Resurrected Vegeta was weaker than before, true, how do we know this? Because AT (Goku) tells us (the quote in the previous post).

On the other hand, nothing was said about the (dead) Ssj2 Vegeta who faced Kid Boo, so it is safe to assume his power didn't change compared to the last time we saw him (Majin Vegeta) because, indeed, nothing in the manga states that Ssj2 Vegeta (at Kid Boo) is =/= Majin Vegeta in power.

Hope it is more clear now. 😉

That makes no sense. The entire reason Vegeta wanted the Majin-amp in the first place was to make him more powerful than he was in his 'regular' state... Substantially more powerful, in fact.

Why would I assume that his regular state inextricably became a lot more powerful(post-resurrection), and was on par with his amped Majin state? Literally no evidence is suggestive of this.

I do not need to prove a negative. none

Maybe his body retained the amp power like Goku did with SSG?

I could buy that if it would have been implied *somewhere*.

I implied it just now

Originally posted by Galan007
That makes no sense. The entire reason Vegeta wanted the Majin-amp in the first place was to make him more powerful than he was in his 'regular' state... Substantially more powerful, in fact.

Why would I assume that his regular state inextricably became a lot more powerful(post-resurrection), and was on par with his amped Majin state? Literally no evidence is suggestive of this.

I do not need to prove a negative. none

Zenkai?

Also I know it was stated, but Mr Buu certainly didn't seem less powerful than when he first appeared. At least after he went back into Buu and then got ripped out. The Evil Buu fight was bad though.

If his power was split or he was lower than half power than he should have done a lot worse than he did. Seems it either got dropped or he got back to original power when he went back into Buu. Though a lot of shit in that saga didn't make much sense.

If his power was his original power after the Super Buu tear then he should win the same. If his power was less than half then he should get stomped.

As for this thread Vegeta should win pretty easily since it is definitely a split Buu.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Zenkai?
Cell is the only character who received a *confirmed* zenkai after the Freeza saga. Aside from that, zenkais went away.

Originally posted by Galan007
That makes no sense. The entire reason Vegeta wanted the Majin-amp in the first place was to make him more powerful than he was in his 'regular' state... Substantially more powerful, in fact.

Why would I assume that his regular state inextricably became a lot more powerful(post-resurrection), and was on par with his amped Majin state? Literally no evidence is suggestive of this.

I do not need to prove a negative. none

Ok, I see now what you mean.
I personally have always considered the Majin boost as a potential unlock and since nothing in the manga was implied against it or against Vegeta keeping the power-up, I've always considered Ssj2 Vegeta post-Majin to be equal to Majin Vegeta as far as battle power goes.
However, now that you say this, I could actually also agree with your point of view, since nothing either in the manga implies that Vegeta retained the Majin boost.
At this point, I think it's up to personal interpretation:

- If Ssj2 Vegeta post-Majin = Majin Vegeta, Majin Vegeta loses this fight against Good Boo.
- If, on the other hand, it's Majin Vegeta > Ssj2 Vegeta post-Majin, I can see the Majin prince having a power advantage over Good Boo, and thus winning this contest.

Originally posted by Galan007
I could buy that if it would have been implied *somewhere*.

Fusion Reborn. Non-canon though.