Count Dooku vs Darth Maul

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
They had those 3 seconds doesn't mean they would have hit him. Why would he block if they didn't fire? He dodged it when they shot, so what's you point? He was never at their mercy due to U.S. Seeing that he could evade it no matter what.

The amount of droidekas he faced, while they don't have as much firepower as tanks are much more maneuverable and have shields and are harder to kill. Be over the cloned helped he was holding his own against them.

Where are the facts that say she was weakened? I'm still waiting on those. Post it.

He needed aid no matter how you want to spin it. Kenobi and Qui both fled from destroyers so it makes sense given the cowardly history of the Jedi.

In the comic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was vulnerable for three scones and moved before they could fire showing their ineptitude. They never fired when he was in their scope.

He needed aid no matter how you want to spin it. Kenobi and Qui both fled from destroyers so it makes sense given the cowardly history of the Jedi.

In the comic.

He wasn't vulnerable. He showed us he could have dodged whenever they shot.

So because you run when there is no reason left for you to stay and you can't win makes you a coward?

Nope. Try again. The only thing that says she would have been WEKAEND was when a night brother said she "COULD" be weakened. There is a difference between could and are. Post where you claim it says she was weakened.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He wasn't vulnerable. He showed us he could have dodged whenever they shot.

So because you run when there is no reason left for you to stay and you can't win makes you a coward?

Nope. Try again. The only thing that says she would have been WEKAEND was when a night brother said she "COULD" be weakened. There is a difference between could and are. Post where you claim it says she was weakened.

Leaving a fair fight is cowardly. He's weak. They were both armed.

Despite this Sheev needed a three on one advantage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But he didn't so speculation on your end. Sheev hit him with a two second warned attack.

Leaving a fair fight is cowardly. He's weak. They were both armed.

Despite this Sheev needed a three on one advantage.

He didn't because they didn't shoot so wrong on your part. If he dodged it then he could dodge it 3 seconds before as no circumstances changed that would affect his mobility.

Qui got and Obi were outnumbered and backed up against a wall with constant fire at them. Running was the best option.

So you admit she wasn't weakened. This is done I win. This only shows how powerful Sidious is as he was able to take on a overpowered Talzin by himself even with maul giving her energy.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He didn't because they didn't shoot so wrong on your part. If he dodged it then he could dodge it 3 seconds before as no circumstances changed that would affect his mobility.

Qui got and Obi were outnumbered and backed up against a wall with constant fire at them. Running was the best option.

So you admit she wasn't weakened. This is done I win. This only shows how powerful Sidious is as he was able to take on a overpowered Talzin by himself even with maul giving her energy.

They ran from a few. 😂

She was weakened. No proof at all she was amped. Sheep needed a three on one against a weakened opponent because he's a coward. May he rot in hell.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
They showed they didn't shoot hence they were inept. You aren't making any sense and he never dodged an attack.

They ran from a few. 😂

She was weakened. No proof at all she was amped. Sheep needed a three on one against a weakened opponent because he's a coward. May he rot in hell.

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Them shooting really doesn't matter as when they did shoot he dodged it.

With shield generators.

Show me the evidence. The fact that we all know dathomir is a nexus yea she would be amped. Also brother viscus however explicitly states that "we are now at the heart of Mother Talzins power". So whiel this shows more concrete that she was indeed at the heart of her power which would imply a place where she would be boosted to an extent. Now when go gin back to the comic, viscus states she may be weakened. May is the key word. With that the comic never goes on to show any weakness on her part. So really this shows Sidious power as he was able to stalemate Talzin, on her own terf, in the heart of her power, with maul giving her his energy all that and she still couldn't overwhelm him. Still waiting on that proof that says she was weakened.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Them shooting really doesn't matter as when they did shoot he dodged it.

With shield generators.

Show me the evidence. The fact that we all know dathomir is a nexus yea she would be amped. Also brother viscus however explicitly states that "we are now at the heart of Mother Talzins power". So whiel this shows more concrete that she was indeed at the heart of her power which would imply a place where she would be boosted to an extent. Now when go gin back to the comic, viscus states she may be weakened. May is the key word. With that the comic never goes on to show any weakness on her part. So really this shows Sidious power as he was able to stalemate Talzin, on her own terf, in the heart of her power, with maul giving her his energy all that and she still couldn't overwhelm him. Still waiting on that proof that says she was weakened.

So ? I guess that's all it takes to make two Jedi shit their pants. Weak.

No, she is at her best there which doesn't mean amp, kiddo. But they also say she may be weakened. Statement is enough and 3 to 1 is such an unfair advantage the weakling used against Talzin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They never shot when they had him in their scope.

So ? I guess that's all it takes to make two Jedi shit their pants. Weak.

No, she is at her best there which doesn't mean amp, kiddo. But they also say she may be weakened. Statement is enough and 3 to 1 is such an unfair advantage the weakling used against Talzin.

So? It would t matter.

If they didn't have the shield generators they would have killed the destroyers. Yoda in the first episode of TCW takes out 3 tanks and an entire squadron of battle Droids by himself.

At her best which takes away her being weakend dummy. May!!! May means it's possible but we don't know. Heart of her power shows she is at her strongest here which would go to an amp as dathomir is a nexus. Really it was actually 2v3 since maul gave her some help and greviosu event out all her amps and stuff.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So? It would t matter.

If they didn't have the shield generators they would have killed the destroyers. Yoda in the first episode of TCW takes out 3 tanks and an entire squadron of battle Droids by himself.

At her best which takes away her being weakend dummy. May!!! May means it's possible but we don't know. Heart of her power shows she is at her strongest here which would go to an amp as dathomir is a nexus. Really it was actually 2v3 since maul gave her some help and greviosu event out all her amps and stuff.

So they can't overcome them. 😂

She was weakened after she got her body back, dummy. 2 vs 3 still isn't fair, dummy.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So shooting someone in your scope doesn't matter ? You are a fool.

So they can't overcome them. 😂

She was weakened after she got her body back, dummy. 2 vs 3 still isn't fair, dummy.

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If they show they can dodge it it doesn't matter.

Not at that time frame as through the clone wars we have seen Jedi take down droidekas/destroyers.

Really you can't call me a dummy where it never says if she was weakened dummy. So you sympathize for palaptine who was confronted by 4 Jedi masters and showed he was better than all of them.

Staying to the original topic. Dooku wins due to greater skill with the blade and greater command of the force. He has successfully tanked and defeated opponents who show better athletics than himself. Anakin skywalker being a prime examples, as well as savage being the bruit he is, and to an extent Obi wan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If they show they can dodge it it doesn't matter.

Not at that time frame as through the clone wars we have seen Jedi take down droidekas/destroyers.

Really you can't call me a dummy where it never says if she was weakened dummy. So you sympathize for palaptine who was confronted by 4 Jedi masters and showed he was better than all of them.

Staying to the original topic. Dooku wins due to greater skill with the blade and greater command of the force. He has successfully tanked and defeated opponents who show better athletics than himself. Anakin skywalker being a prime examples, as well as savage being the bruit he is, and to an extent Obi wan.

So they were pansies. 😂

Yes, I can because it was referred to after she got her body back.

Nah, he loses. Maul is quicker and stronger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can't dodge lasers. 😂

So they were pansies. 😂

Yes, I can because it was referred to after she got her body back.

Nah, he loses. Maul is quicker and stronger.

https://youtu.be/5-fkESkmvu0 1:03-1:05 sure he can't dodge lasers.

Excuses. The droidekas/destroyers would have become more adept during the war and numerous and the Jedi would have been more experienced as well.

Prove it.

Maul isn't quicker than him. Strength hasn't proven to be an issue Dooku can't handle. Anakin and savage oppress come to mind. Dooku has better skill with the blade and better force powers. He can ragdoll maul just as easily as he did obi wan. Also his lightning can work on him as well.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
https://youtu.be/5-fkESkmvu0 1:03-1:05 sure he can't dodge lasers.

Excuses. The droidekas/destroyers would have become more adept during the war and numerous and the Jedi would have been more experienced as well.

Prove it.

Maul isn't quicker than him. Strength hasn't proven to be an issue Dooku can't handle. Anakin and savage oppress come to mind. Dooku has better skill with the blade and better force powers. He can ragdoll maul just as easily as he did obi wan. Also his lightning can work on him as well.

Based on ?

Prove what.

Yes, he is. We clearly see he is faster based off the characters movements.

When has maul been fl prior to losing his saber ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can move in anticipation of just like a person moving while someone is shooting at them. That doesn't make the people faster than this speed of the projectiles.

Based on ?

Prove what.

Yes, he is. We clearly see he is faster based off the characters movements.

When has maul been fl prior to losing his saber ?

Well now you've been proved wrong as he dodged the blast as your point was he can't dodge lasers and he did.

Technology advances and the fact your going into war so you would be better trained to fight against them.

Prove she was weakened. Where does it say mother talzin was weakened. No might no probably, where does it speciffacly state that she was weakened?

No he isn't. Dooku can move just as fast and most possibly faster due to greater command of the force and with that better use of force augmentation. Maul ain't faster than Dooku as Dooku was able to hold off yoda who is much faster than maul.

When sidious had him in a TK hold in lawless. He still had both his sabers on him at that time, or how about mid duel when sidious pushed him when he had his share out and basically had maul unconscious.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well now you've been proved wrong as he dodged the blast as your point was he can't dodge lasers and he did.

Technology advances and the fact your going into war so you would be better trained to fight against them.

Prove she was weakened. Where does it say mother talzin was weakened. No might no probably, where does it speciffacly state that she was weakened?

No he isn't. Dooku can move just as fast and most possibly faster due to greater command of the force and with that better use of force augmentation. Maul ain't faster than Dooku as Dooku was able to hold off yoda who is much faster than maul.

When sidious had him in a TK hold in lawless. He still had both his sabers on him at that time, or how about mid duel when sidious pushed him when he had his share out and basically had maul unconscious.

In Star Wars it doesn't change that much. Star Trek is much more progressive than Star Wars.

I already did, prove she was amped.

Prove it.

Dooku manhandles Darth Maul.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just told you why and you ignore what I say.

In Star Wars it doesn't change that much. Star Trek is much more progressive than Star Wars.

I already did, prove she was amped.

Prove it.

No you speciffacly said yoda can't dodge lasers and I showed you when he did. So whatever you said you've been proved wrong.

Irrelevant to this. We are talking about droidekas vs Jedi. Glad we agree.

No you haven't. You proved that it's a possibility, you never proved she was without a doubt 100% weakened. By 100% I mean it's for sure she was weakened. Heart of her power. Dathomir is a nexus.

Yoda vs Dooku. Dooku kept up with yoda who is known for matching sidious a duelist capable of speed blitzing 3 Jedi master in 10 seconds.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No you speciffacly said yoda can't dodge lasers and I showed you when he did. So whatever you said you've been proved wrong.

Irrelevant to this. We are talking about droidekas vs Jedi. Glad we agree.

No you haven't. You proved that it's a possibility, you never proved she was without a doubt 100% weakened. By 100% I mean it's for sure she was weakened. Heart of her power. Dathomir is a nexus.

Yoda vs Dooku. Dooku kept up with yoda who is known for matching sidious a duelist capable of speed blitzing 3 Jedi master in 10 seconds.

We don't agree. They haven't progressed.

The comic states as much but the comic never states she was amped.

Sheev blitzed weak Jedi in second long attacks making the. Lots the slowest blitz below human level reaction time. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not dodge lasers. Khan dodged them as well by your standards.

We don't agree. They haven't progressed.

The comic states as much but the comic never states she was amped.

Sheev blitzed weak Jedi in second long attacks making the. Lots the slowest blitz below human level reaction time. 😂

Dodged means you evade. Yoda evaded that laser. Why do you deny what is right in front of you.

Based on?

Comic never states she was weakened. Comic says "heart of her power" showing that she wouldn't be weakened or more powered either way she isn't weakened.

Weak according to you. However these three Jedi are all Jedi council members, Jedi who windu believed would help. That just shows how fast and powerful Sidious is. Anyone how can blitz 3 Jedi masters in 10 seconds is fast. That's why books are better due to them not being limited to human reaction times while the movie we have to use are imagination to know what they mean while the book describes it better.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dodged means you evade. Yoda evaded that laser. Why do you deny what is right in front of you.

Based on?

Comic never states she was weakened. Comic says "heart of her power" showing that she wouldn't be weakened or more powered either way she isn't weakened.

Weak according to you. However these three Jedi are all Jedi council members, Jedi who windu believed would help. That just shows how fast and powerful Sidious is. Anyone how can blitz 3 Jedi masters in 10 seconds is fast. That's why books are better due to them not being limited to human reaction times while the movie we have to use are imagination to know what they mean while the book describes it better.

Based off the evidence from the films.

After this she was weakened.

The blitz lasted multiple seconds which is worse than human reaction time. 😂

Awful.