Count Dooku vs Darth Maul

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So?

So if that's the case mace never beat sidious had he had a second blade that he could have used.

Yet doing that didn't help maul out when he fought kenobi the first time. It almost cost him his life. Also maul had to resort to something he doesn't like to really use. His force powers.

Nah he just went crazy and got crazy spider legs. What else could Dooku have done. He clusltn have run, and he didn't have any hands so what could he have done.

Maul lives because sidious allowed him to.

Speed nope. Power also no. Dooku is faster, and has better power in both the force and greater skill with the bade.

He didn't have the second weapon in that scene. He did against maul though.

He taunted Kenobi and still survived. Maul survived and didn't need to be saved like Vader did.

Dooku was left speechless and went to his death like a true follower.

So now you lie and say Dooku is more powerful and quicker. You're an ignorant fanboy incapable of debating with because you lie all the time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Proves he needed aid against a weaker opponent.

He didn't have the second weapon in that scene. He did against maul though.

He taunted Kenobi and still survived. Maul survived and didn't need to be saved like Vader did.

Dooku was left speechless and went to his death like a true follower.

So now you lie and say Dooku is more powerful and quicker. You're an ignorant fanboy incapable of debating with because you lie all the time.

Considering she had help from maul on a nexus for Talzin it's balanced out.

Yes he did. I gave you the directions on how to find that in the thread about whether windu won or sidious threw the fight.

He lost the battle though. Well that's because Vader suffered worse and came out alive. Before he got help he survived.

Really he had no other options.

He's defiantly faster or can keep up with mauls speed as sent by how he can keep up with much faster opponents. I don't lie. You do however. What do you mean by maul is more powerful. In what way?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Considering she had help from maul on a nexus for Talzin it's balanced out.

Yes he did. I gave you the directions on how to find that in the thread about whether windu won or sidious threw the fight.

He lost the battle though. Well that's because Vader suffered worse and came out alive. Before he got help he survived.

Really he had no other options.

He's defiantly faster or can keep up with mauls speed as sent by how he can keep up with much faster opponents. I don't lie. You do however. What do you mean by maul is more powerful. In what way?

Lucas said otherwise. Done deal

Vader suffered worse because he burned like a bratty child but being cut in half and surviving is amazing.

He could have said this is the Sith Lord and objected. He went to his death like a *****.

He isn't faster he uses a precise fighting style which doesn't rely on speed, dummy.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
No. Maul,left and she was weakened making it three on one.

Lucas said otherwise. Done deal

Vader suffered worse because he burned like a bratty child but being cut in half and surviving is amazing.

He could have said this is the Sith Lord and objected. He went to his death like a *****.

He isn't faster he uses a precise fighting style which doesn't rely on speed, dummy.
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Maul gave her energy before he left. Her weakness was more than made up for.

Apparently not. Deal not done. I actually recall seeing a source where he purposely leaves it up for debate.

Being burned like that, losing the rest of your arms and legs, and suffering all that and still living for a even seconds without help is far more amazing.

Really? You think it's that simple? He says it. Dooku would be under so much circumstance and Dooku si a known liar and manipulator. So why would they believe him?

That means what exactly? So what he uses precise strikes so what? It takes speed to do what he does. It takes speed to do what almost everyone does. Dooku is faster and better than maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Maul gave her energy before he left. Her weakness was more than made up for.

Apparently not. Deal not done. I actually recall seeing a source where he purposely leaves it up for debate.

Being burned like that, losing the rest of your arms and legs, and suffering all that and still living for a even seconds without help is far more amazing.

Really? You think it's that simple? He says it. Dooku would be under so much circumstance and Dooku si a known liar and manipulator. So why would they believe him?

That means what exactly? So what he uses precise strikes so what? It takes speed to do what he does. It takes speed to do what almost everyone does. Dooku is faster and better than maul.

He said he overcame him. End of story. You ignoring his words like so many other fanboys is just pathetic.

No, it isn't since he needed outside help unlike Maul. Maul didn't need a suit to continue his existence. 😂

Because it's true and that he is clever but he went to his death like a true pawn.

You are ignorant when it comes to dookus fighting style. You believe he's some quick, powerful guy.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
When he touched her he aided her. Dooku was still actively fighting and actually sending raw lightning.

He said he overcame him. End of story. You ignoring his words like so many other fanboys is just pathetic.

No, it isn't since he needed outside help unlike Maul. Maul didn't need a suit to continue his existence. 😂

Because it's true and that he is clever but he went to his death like a true pawn.

You are ignorant when it comes to dookus fighting style. You believe he's some quick, powerful guy.

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He gave her energy to work with.

That's what he said. Doesn't mean he won legitamently. He just described the scene like he is suppose to do. You being desperate and twisting his words is much worse.

Nah he just needed bionic legs.

You're an idiot. If Dooku did that no one would believe him.

I know more about his fighting style than you do. Him being the best makashi matser of all time he still has speed along side his precision. He is able to way more than maul. Dookus power in the force outstrips maul defiantly. He has more experience with the blade, is more refined, has the better weapon, and is more versatile.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He gave her energy to work with.

That's what he said. Doesn't mean he won legitamently. He just described the scene like he is suppose to do. You being desperate and twisting his words is much worse.

Nah he just needed bionic legs.

You're an idiot. If Dooku did that no one would believe him.

I know more about his fighting style than you do. Him being the best makashi matser of all time he still has speed along side his precision. He is able to way more than maul. Dookus power in the force outstrips maul defiantly. He has more experience with the blade, is more refined, has the better weapon, and is more versatile.

Yes, that's what he overcame him means. You don't know what words means because you're sinple.

Yes, legs only which is better than an entire suit. 😂

It was the truth so shame on him for not trying.

No, he uses precision and isn't fast. Watch the damn films. Your Star Wars ignorance is legendary.

Originally posted by quanchi112
While he touched her. You're simple.

Yes, that's what he overcame him means. You don't know what words means because you're sinple.

Yes, legs only which is better than an entire suit. 😂

It was the truth so shame on him for not trying.

No, he uses precision and isn't fast. Watch the damn films. Your Star Wars ignorance is legendary.

Once you give energy you give the energy whether you are touching or not. It want limited to just him touching her you idiot.

Again him overcoming him is just him describing the scene. He never says windu legitamently wins the fight.

Actually no as the suit proveds greater durability, enhanced strength, greater endurance.

Truth or not no one woudl believe him.

So precision needs to be fast. If it's not than anyone can just block it. Watch the films and clone wars. Take your own advice. If you do you will see maul has nothing Dooku can't handle.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Once you give energy you give the energy whether you are touching or not. It want limited to just him touching her you idiot.

Again him overcoming him is just him describing the scene. He never says windu legitamently wins the fight.

Actually no as the suit proveds greater durability, enhanced strength, greater endurance.

Truth or not no one woudl believe him.

So precision needs to be fast. If it's not than anyone can just block it. Watch the films and clone wars. Take your own advice. If you do you will see maul has nothing Dooku can't handle.

Overcame him means disarming him. That was on his skill.

It proves he needs it to survive. Vader needs help because he was weak. Kenobi wrecked him and even tried pleading with him not to jump.

No, precision needs to show precise movement not quicker movement.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove that. You made the claim.

Overcame him means disarming him. That was on his skill.

It proves he needs it to survive. Vader needs help because he was weak. Kenobi wrecked him and even tried pleading with him not to jump.

No, precision needs to show precise movement not quicker movement.

It's simple. He transfers him energy. He gives her the energy. Once it's in her system or pool of power it doesn't leave just because he stops touching her. That's like saying just because I'm not touching you the power I absorbed from you goes back to you because I'm not touching you.

Which Lucas was using to describe that scene. So abc, to square 1.

He was burned severely and lost all his limbs. Mauls doesn't even know close to that type of physical pain.

It needs precision and then the speed the get it there efficiently. The fact you don't know this shows stupidity. Also speed or not it shwoed he could match speed of Yoda. Enough said.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's simple. He transfers him energy. He gives her the energy. Once it's in her system or pool of power it doesn't leave just because he stops touching her. That's like saying just because I'm not touching you the power I absorbed from you goes back to you because I'm not touching you.

Which Lucas was using to describe that scene. So abc, to square 1.

He was burned severely and lost all his limbs. Mauls doesn't even know close to that type of physical pain.

It needs precision and then the speed the get it there efficiently. The fact you don't know this shows stupidity. Also speed or not it shwoed he could match speed of Yoda. Enough said.

He described Windu overcoming him which means he didn't throw the fight. 😂

He didn't lose all his limbs. Maul was cut in half and that kills most. Maul didn't have a mess team standing by.

He uses precision because he's older and isn't as fast ffs. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Just like Dooku couldn't just give away his energy he had to actively give it. Maul gave it temporarily. You also acknowledged maul has inferior force power to Sheev still had the advantage against a weakened Talzin.

He described Windu overcoming him which means he didn't throw the fight. 😂

He didn't lose all his limbs. Maul was cut in half and that kills most. Maul didn't have a mess team standing by.

He uses precision because he's older and isn't as fast ffs. 😂

That's force lightning not a transfer of energy. Two complete different things. Maul is giving energy while Dooku is shooting out Lightning. Him having weaker force powers than sidiosu doesn't have anything to do with this here.

No it just describes what we see onscreen without any other outside interference just that one seen by itself.

Maul lost his lower half. Vader lost his last arm and both his legs. Then got burned to where needed a suit to live. Vader took the worse damage and came back. He puts maul to shame in physical tolerance.

A counter to that. Yoda. Yoda is the oldest person in the movies and still moves very fast. Dooku can match his speed thus he is also fast. He uses precision that doesn't detract from his speed.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That's force lightning not a transfer of energy. Two complete different things. Maul is giving energy while Dooku is shooting out Lightning. Him having weaker force powers than sidiosu doesn't have anything to do with this here.

No it just describes what we see onscreen without any other outside interference just that one seen by itself.

Maul lost his lower half. Vader lost his last arm and both his legs. Then got burned to where needed a suit to live. Vader took the worse damage and came back. He puts maul to shame in physical tolerance.

A counter to that. Yoda. Yoda is the oldest person in the movies and still moves very fast. Dooku can match his speed thus he is also fast. He uses precision that doesn't detract from his speed.

Three on one advantage against one weakened opponent. Sheev is weak.

Vader had aid to bring him back. Maul did not. Mauls the bigger and better man. Vader sat there and cried out I hate you to his superior, Kenobi who walked away after he begged Anakin to not be so stupid.

Yoda is quicker than Dooku. His force powers are greater so it makes sense his force amp is greater and thus he's able to do so, dummy. Dooku isn't fast like Maul or Yoda. Common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You've already said dookus force powers are greater than Mauls. Prove it.

Three on one advantage against one weakened opponent. Sheev is weak.

Vader had aid to bring him back. Maul did not. Mauls the bigger and better man. Vader sat there and cried out I hate you to his superior, Kenobi who walked away after he begged Anakin to not be so stupid.

Yoda is quicker than Dooku. His force powers are greater so it makes sense his force amp is greater and thus he's able to do so, dummy. Dooku isn't fast like Maul or Yoda. Common sense.

We're debating whether mauls energy stayed with Talzin once his hand left her. Mauls power in the force has no place in that.

Her weakness was more than made up for.

He survived before sidious showed up. Maul did it face the same amount of pain not even close. Maul suffered what Vader woudl call Childs play. Yet he is stated to be better than obi. So with your logic obi is unquestionable better than maul. Good. So now maul is at the bottom of the heap. Anakins first, obi is second then maul is third.

Yet Dooku was able to match his speed. Exactly power in the force allows you to do things to the superhuman level. Dookus power in the force while not on Yodas level is still powerful and has achieved a lot. With that his speed woudl also be amped to the superhuman levels due to force augmentation. No Dooku is faster than maul, by your own logic as you just stated that by having greater power in the force he is faster, Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls thus he woudl be able to amp his speed to higher heights. Glad we agree. 💃

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We're debating whether mauls energy stayed with Talzin once his hand left her. Mauls power in the force has no place in that.

Her weakness was more than made up for.

He survived before sidious showed up. Maul did it face the same amount of pain not even close. Maul suffered what Vader woudl call Childs play. Yet he is stated to be better than obi. So with your logic obi is unquestionable better than maul. Good. So now maul is at the bottom of the heap. Anakins first, obi is second then maul is third.

Yet Dooku was able to match his speed. Exactly power in the force allows you to do things to the superhuman level. Dookus power in the force while not on Yodas level is still powerful and has achieved a lot. With that his speed woudl also be amped to the superhuman levels due to force augmentation. No Dooku is faster than maul, by your own logic as you just stated that by having greater power in the force he is faster, Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls thus he woudl be able to amp his speed to higher heights. Glad we agree. 💃

Three on one isn't fair. Sheev is weak.

Anakin was saved and needed a suit to prolong his life. Hahaha. Maul survived on his own like a man. Kenobi wrecked Vader whereas Maul came back and killed Kenobis ex.

Dooku is slower and less powerful. His style is about precision not power or speed.

Maul is very quick indeed to press Sheev. Maul is faster than Dooku. Undeniable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove it did.

Three on one isn't fair. Sheev is weak.

Anakin was saved and needed a suit to prolong his life. Hahaha. Maul survived on his own like a man. Kenobi wrecked Vader whereas Maul came back and killed Kenobis ex.

Dooku is slower and less powerful. His style is about precision not power or speed.

Maul is very quick indeed to press Sheev. Maul is faster than Dooku. Undeniable.

She was able to match sidious. Point proven.

Her weakness was more than made up for with the planet itself then maul helping her out so Dooku helped sheev out then she was pretty much done when Dooku stepped in and then grevious stepped in and finished the job.

Yet he lived before he got the suit after he received the engeries. That's incredible. Oh so now you think losing your lower half is the even close to the amount of pain and anguish as losing all your limbs, and getting burned to the bone? Kenobi cut maul in half. That was funny. 😂

Precion fast strikes. You need speed for precision. You don't want to be slow moving then what's the point in precision. He's better than maul in every way except for natural physique and that's nothing Dooku can't compensate for.

Maul is quick however not nearly enough to press sidious. False. Dooku si faster or can match mauls speed. That's undeniable.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
She was able to match sidious. Point proven.

Her weakness was more than made up for with the planet itself then maul helping her out so Dooku helped sheev out then she was pretty much done when Dooku stepped in and then grevious stepped in and finished the job.

Yet he lived before he got the suit after he received the engeries. That's incredible. Oh so now you think losing your lower half is the even close to the amount of pain and anguish as losing all your limbs, and getting burned to the bone? Kenobi cut maul in half. That was funny. 😂

Precion fast strikes. You need speed for precision. You don't want to be slow moving then what's the point in precision. He's better than maul in every way except for natural physique and that's nothing Dooku can't compensate for.

Maul is quick however not nearly enough to press sidious. False. Dooku si faster or can match mauls speed. That's undeniable.

Prove it then. If you can't then you're speculating.

Because he was saved. Maul didn't need to be. Maul lived and it was funny when he made Kenobi watch him kill his ex. Kenobi failed to kill Maul.

Nah. He's precise not very fast. Your ignorance is appalling.

He did. Nah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She matched both he and Dooku while weekend.

Prove it then. If you can't then you're speculating.

Because he was saved. Maul didn't need to be. Maul lived and it was funny when he made Kenobi watch him kill his ex. Kenobi failed to kill Maul.

Nah. He's precise not very fast. Your ignorance is appalling.

He did. Nah.

Really she was getting overpowered.

Dathomir amp and maul giving her energy. Boom. End of story.

Did you not see the time when he crawled out form the lava and turned over before they go to him or did you leave that part out? Maul needed death watch to help him out in one of his little fixtures. Maul failed to kill kenobi yet kenobi sliced him in half. It was funny. 😂 😆

Dooku has speed as he has matched Yoda, Anakin, obi wan, ventress, savage, and Yoda even regarding that he has become more powerful than he used to be.

In your imagination he did however in real life he didn't. Dooku takes maul to school and shows him the defintion of power. Sidiosu took it easy on him.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Really she was getting overpowered.

Dathomir amp and maul giving her energy. Boom. End of story.

Did you not see the time when he crawled out form the lava and turned over before they go to him or did you leave that part out? Maul needed death watch to help him out in one of his little fixtures. Maul failed to kill kenobi yet kenobi sliced him in half. It was funny. 😂 😆

Dooku has speed as he has matched Yoda, Anakin, obi wan, ventress, savage, and Yoda even regarding that he has become more powerful than he used to be.

In your imagination he did however in real life he didn't. Dooku takes maul to school and shows him the defintion of power. Sidiosu took it easy on him.

Prove she got an amp and that mauls energy stayed.

Maul was put to drift for a while and he still survived on his own. Amazing. Maul overtook death watch.

Dooku isn't as fast as Yoda. His precision bought him the time to avoid the fight.

Maul wins. Faster and more powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She held her own against two while weakened. Grievous had to kill her.

Prove she got an amp and that mauls energy stayed.

Maul was put to drift for a while and he still survived on his own. Amazing. Maul overtook death watch.

Dooku isn't as fast as Yoda. His precision bought him the time to avoid the fight.

Maul wins. Faster and more powerful.

I don't believe that weekend crap. Her weakness there or not was made up for. So whether at full power she wasn't weak.

Prove that it didn't. Star Wars knowledge knows that Dathomir is an amp that much is certain. If I give you energy, I'm giving it to you, it doesn't leave the moment I stop touching you, it stays.

After getting put in prison.

He can keep up with Yoda as a seen in AOTC. Precision and speed are both things Yoda has.

False on all accounts.