Count Dooku vs Darth Maul

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Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't see an energy gauge but weakened means less than at their best. That's undeniable.

Kicking and forcing him to engage and literally press him. Maul won but that doesn't change the fact he did press him. Anakin according to you only beat Dooku due to his rage amp so you aren't that impressed. Maul would capitalize on how unbalanced he was due to Anakin rage just as he clearly stated against Kenobi in their first duel in the clone wars series.

Sheev won and yoda even said afterwards he failed. Maul wins just like Anakin did by powerful strikes.

Doesn't detract from the fact that Dathomir is a nexus and would help her. So while I'm not questioning the novel I'm saying that she had some power up due to her being on a nexus.

So he want engaging him the entire fight? Was he not fighting/engaging him. He wasn't pressing Sidious not even close. While I admit he got a kick on Sidious a good feat he didn't press him. You are correct I belive Dooku only lost due to a rage amp from his opponent because in the preceding strokes and maneuvers Dooku had kicked Anakin in a wall and was evading and taking and redirecting everything Anakin had really. You are terrible at making comparisons. Look at kenobi in TPM then look at him in TCW. He received a rage amp but it worked in two separate ways. First one worked pretty effectively he was able to disarm maul of one of his blades and actually require maul to do something he prefers not to do. Use his force powers. Then he was an Ataru specialist. In TCW he is a soresu specialist. So how do you get a peace keeper with the nickname the negotiator with the most paciistic form and think he's going to do well in that situation. Anakin being a Djem so specialist is going to have better succes due to his style being a very aggressive style.

Again was yoda the only won who came off the pod? The two are stalemates as before they both fell of yoda pushed the bubble of energy back but couldn't successfully put it back on Sidious showing a stalemate as he was able to put it as far as he did but cou don't go all the way. Again powerful strikes are not going to guarantee you victory. We must also look at the multiple times Dooku has defeated Anakin who is a power duelist. Or how Dooku easily redirects the powerful strikes of general Grevious. So really just because his style is aggressive and dookus style is weak to a specific thing maul has Dooku can effectively deal with it as he has compensated for this weakness to an extent.

I can easily say that Dooku wins due to his precision which maul can't afford due to his style being so sporadic it leaves him open. Also Dooku has a massive force edge and we have seen that Dookus force powers work on maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Doesn't detract from the fact that Dathomir is a nexus and would help her. So while I'm not questioning the novel I'm saying that she had some power up due to her being on a nexus.

So he want engaging him the entire fight? Was he not fighting/engaging him. He wasn't pressing Sidious not even close. While I admit he got a kick on Sidious a good feat he didn't press him. You are correct I belive Dooku only lost due to a rage amp from his opponent because in the preceding strokes and maneuvers Dooku had kicked Anakin in a wall and was evading and taking and redirecting everything Anakin had really. You are terrible at making comparisons. Look at kenobi in TPM then look at him in TCW. He received a rage amp but it worked in two separate ways. First one worked pretty effectively he was able to disarm maul of one of his blades and actually require maul to do something he prefers not to do. Use his force powers. Then he was an Ataru specialist. In TCW he is a soresu specialist. So how do you get a peace keeper with the nickname the negotiator with the most paciistic form and think he's going to do well in that situation. Anakin being a Djem so specialist is going to have better succes due to his style being a very aggressive style.

Again was yoda the only won who came off the pod? The two are stalemates as before they both fell of yoda pushed the bubble of energy back but couldn't successfully put it back on Sidious showing a stalemate as he was able to put it as far as he did but cou don't go all the way. Again powerful strikes are not going to guarantee you victory. We must also look at the multiple times Dooku has defeated Anakin who is a power duelist. Or how Dooku easily redirects the powerful strikes of general Grevious. So really just because his style is aggressive and dookus style is weak to a specific thing maul has Dooku can effectively deal with it as he has compensated for this weakness to an extent.

I can easily say that Dooku wins due to his precision which maul can't afford due to his style being so sporadic it leaves him open. Also Dooku has a massive force edge and we have seen that Dookus force powers work on maul.

She is still weakened and the book is correct not you.

He pressed him. Sheev won. Kenobi har a rage amp and Maul threw him off balance Dooku was unable to because he's weak.

You continue to repeat yourself and ignore yoda said words.

You have nothing to back that up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is still weakened and the book is correct not you.

He pressed him. Sheev won. Kenobi har a rage amp and Maul threw him off balance Dooku was unable to because he's weak.

You continue to repeat yourself and ignore yoda said words.

You have nothing to back that up.

I actually am correct you're just ignorant.

Sheev did win against maul. He won in a landslide. He didn't press him. Again kenobi during this time was a soresu master a form known for its lack of offense so of course he isn't going to be as good. However look at his performance in the phantom menace when he was an Ataru specialist thus a lot more aggressive capabilities. So someone who has been able to take on and defeat Anakin is weak?

I'm not ignoring his words. I Said they are stalemates due to the actions they displayed during the battle I couldn't see anyone gaining and keeping the upper hand.

Prove it. Juyo is stated to be the most aggressive form with no defense. Makashi is stated to be the most precise form and is used to exploit their defense. Juyo having no defense while Makashi can exploit his no defense and find in his sporadic style a flaw and exploit it.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I actually am correct you're just ignorant.

Sheev did win against maul. He won in a landslide. He didn't press him. Again kenobi during this time was a soresu master a form known for its lack of offense so of course he isn't going to be as good. However look at his performance in the phantom menace when he was an Ataru specialist thus a lot more aggressive capabilities. So someone who has been able to take on and defeat Anakin is weak?

I'm not ignoring his words. I Said they are stalemates due to the actions they displayed during the battle I couldn't see anyone gaining and keeping the upper hand.

Prove it. Juyo is stated to be the most aggressive form with no defense. Makashi is stated to be the most precise form and is used to exploit their defense. Juyo having no defense while Makashi can exploit his no defense and find in his sporadic style a flaw and exploit it.

You already agreed that it's irrelevant and that her weakened levels means less than optimal power.

No, he won but it was close. Someone weaker than Anakin beat him. Awful

Yoda failed. He lost so your ridiculous they are force stalemates has no bearing on the actual fight. You're too stupid to even realize this.

Maul wins easier than Anakin did as to precious reasons stated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You already agreed that it's irrelevant and that her weakened levels means less than optimal power.

No, he won but it was close. Someone weaker than Anakin beat him. Awful

Yoda failed. He lost so your ridiculous they are force stalemates has no bearing on the actual fight. You're too stupid to even realize this.

Maul wins easier than Anakin did as to precious reasons stated.

Still doesn't detract from the nexus part.

You think maul lost by a little? Stop being a fanboy. Sidious won that battle. If they fought it 100 times over maul would lose 100/100 times. Dooku is not weaker than Anakin in terms of the force and saber combat. Physical than he's Anakin holds the edge however it's not something Dooku can't handle.

No your just stupid and don't look at battles correctly. If yoda is able to push the force energy bubble back onto Sidious and both are going all out trying to overpower the other and neither is able to overpower the other that shows they are stalemates. So whether you like it or not that's the case. However by ROTJ Sidious is defintly more powerful.

Well those reasons are again either baseless, or have no real bearing on the battle, or isn't anything Dooku can't handle. Dooku wins, greater command of the force, and greater skill with the blade.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Still doesn't detract from the nexus part.

You think maul lost by a little? Stop being a fanboy. Sidious won that battle. If they fought it 100 times over maul would lose 100/100 times. Dooku is not weaker than Anakin in terms of the force and saber combat. Physical than he's Anakin holds the edge however it's not something Dooku can't handle.

No your just stupid and don't look at battles correctly. If yoda is able to push the force energy bubble back onto Sidious and both are going all out trying to overpower the other and neither is able to overpower the other that shows they are stalemates. So whether you like it or not that's the case. However by ROTJ Sidious is defintly more powerful.

Well those reasons are again either baseless, or have no real bearing on the battle, or isn't anything Dooku can't handle. Dooku wins, greater command of the force, and greater skill with the blade.

She's still weaker than normal taking on Sheev and Dooku. 😂

He did win and Maul was in the end beaten but he pressed him alright. Sheev says he was weaker and older than his new apprentice.

Yoda lost. Sheev won. You're a Yoda fanboy. In Rotj he looked weaker than ever by his interaction with Luke.

Maul wins just as Anakin won through sheer power. Force attacks only seem to crush Kenobi. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
She's still weaker than normal taking on Sheev and Dooku. 😂

He did win and Maul was in the end beaten but he pressed him alright. Sheev says he was weaker and older than his new apprentice.

Yoda lost. Sheev won. You're a Yoda fanboy. In Rotj he looked weaker than ever by his interaction with Luke.

Maul wins just as Anakin won through sheer power. Force attacks only seem to crush Kenobi. 😂

Considering she was down and cou don't hold it much longer.

No he didn't press Sidious. When did he say that. He sis defintly older than almost all of his apprentices except Dooku, but weaker? He was stronger than Luke vader and Dooku and maul.

I don't really care for yoda I just belive each character deserves the respect they deserve and yoda deserves to be known as the stalemate of Darth Sidious. Looks can be deceiving. No one would ever guess Sidious would be as acrobatic as he was in ROTS by outward opinion.

Sheer power isn't going to be a factor Dooku can't get passed as seen how he redirects strikes and evades them with ease. Nah they have been the undoing of many beings. Look at Ventress Anakin and maul and savage. Still Dooku has a massive edge in the force and if he notices if maul can possibly I say possibly because it's very unlikely but if maul gained any advantage Dooku would resort to his force powers and thus would win due to superior force powers.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Considering she was down and cou don't hold it much longer.

No he didn't press Sidious. When did he say that. He sis defintly older than almost all of his apprentices except Dooku, but weaker? He was stronger than Luke vader and Dooku and maul.

I don't really care for yoda I just belive each character deserves the respect they deserve and yoda deserves to be known as the stalemate of Darth Sidious. Looks can be deceiving. No one would ever guess Sidious would be as acrobatic as he was in ROTS by outward opinion.

Sheer power isn't going to be a factor Dooku can't get passed as seen how he redirects strikes and evades them with ease. Nah they have been the undoing of many beings. Look at Ventress Anakin and maul and savage. Still Dooku has a massive edge in the force and if he notices if maul can possibly I say possibly because it's very unlikely but if maul gained any advantage Dooku would resort to his force powers and thus would win due to superior force powers.

It was two on one weakened opponent. They needed a third. Shameful.

He did press him but you denying it is showing your fanboyism.

Sheev won. Force powers don't make two equal in combat so quit spouting nonsense.

Sheer power is what crushed him via anakin. Maui wins via sheer power strikes against the older, and weaker Dooku.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was two on one weakened opponent. They needed a third. Shameful.

He did press him but you denying it is showing your fanboyism.

Sheev won. Force powers don't make two equal in combat so quit spouting nonsense.

Sheer power is what crushed him via anakin. Maui wins via sheer power strikes against the older, and weaker Dooku.

Dathomir amp plus the fact that she was going down before grevious stabbed her.

You saying he pressed him shows your desperation and fanboyism for who is possibly the most overrated lightsaber duelist of all time.

It shows they are equal in force powers and then depending on who you ask and how you look at things Yoda would be better in lightsaber combat as he did pressure sidious to drop his saber as stated in the Revenge of the Sith script. So quit being stupid and accept the truth.

Again power strikes are nothing Dooku can't handle. May I remind you of how Dooku has succefully redirected the brute savage, how he has defeated Anakin skywalker a djem so specialist. Mauls aggressive strikes aren't going to win him this battle. If Dooku can defeat Anakin who is stronger than maul, a better duelist than maul, a better character than maul, a more powerful character than maul, and let's not forget maul doesn't have the showings to match Anakin. So with that Dooku is more than capable of defeating maul as he has defeated better than maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dathomir amp plus the fact that she was going down before grevious stabbed her.

You saying he pressed him shows your desperation and fanboyism for who is possibly the most overrated lightsaber duelist of all time.

It shows they are equal in force powers and then depending on who you ask and how you look at things Yoda would be better in lightsaber combat as he did pressure sidious to drop his saber as stated in the Revenge of the Sith script. So quit being stupid and accept the truth.

Again power strikes are nothing Dooku can't handle. May I remind you of how Dooku has succefully redirected the brute savage, how he has defeated Anakin skywalker a djem so specialist. Mauls aggressive strikes aren't going to win him this battle. If Dooku can defeat Anakin who is stronger than maul, a better duelist than maul, a better character than maul, a more powerful character than maul, and let's not forget maul doesn't have the showings to match Anakin. So with that Dooku is more than capable of defeating maul as he has defeated better than maul.

She was still weakened so not up to her normal power levels. Two on one against a weakened opponent.

He did you denying it snows yours.

Force powers do not equate to formidability.

Savage lacked skill but Anakin and Maul combine the two.

Speculation. Maul beat Kenobi who beat Anakin.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was still weakened so not up to her normal power levels. Two on one against a weakened opponent.

He did you denying it snows yours.

Force powers do not equate to formidability.

Savage lacked skill but Anakin and Maul combine the two.

Speculation. Maul beat Kenobi who beat Anakin.

😂

Still couldn't really handle it and still had Dathomir so really her being weakened more than compensated for.

No you're to give maul a feat that he doesn't have. Fanboyism on you. Maul was beaten by kenobi as a padawan.

Yes they do in the world of Star Wars that matters. It defines formidability. Sidious and Yoda by most Danes have become so powerful they have grown above the use of lightsabers and I agree. They don't need to use lightsabers as there power is much to great.

So you can't refute my point that Dooku can handle power attacks. I win.

ABC logic doesn't work here especially when OIB is speciffacly stated to be below Anakin as a duelist and as such maul is considered by some to be below or at least equal to,kenobi thus he is also below Anakin. Dooku beats maul. Hi precision will exploit a hole in mauls sporadic offense.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Still couldn't really handle it and still had Dathomir so really her being weakened more than compensated for.

No you're to give maul a feat that he doesn't have. Fanboyism on you. Maul was beaten by kenobi as a padawan.

Yes they do in the world of Star Wars that matters. It defines formidability. Sidious and Yoda by most Danes have become so powerful they have grown above the use of lightsabers and I agree. They don't need to use lightsabers as there power is much to great.

So you can't refute my point that Dooku can handle power attacks. I win.

ABC logic doesn't work here especially when OIB is speciffacly stated to be below Anakin as a duelist and as such maul is considered by some to be below or at least equal to,kenobi thus he is also below Anakin. Dooku beats maul. Hi precision will exploit a hole in mauls sporadic offense.

She was weakened against two opponents. Undeniable.

After disarming and taunting him. Skill wise he's always been superior to Kenobi who couldn't even kill him but cutting him in half. 🙂

False, as force powers Dooku has Anakin beat but Anakin waxed him. Anakin also had superior force powers to Kenobi and lost. 😂

Maul wins based off portrayals and feats. Dooku is weak. He's some captured wimp against Hondo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was weakened against two opponents. Undeniable.

After disarming and taunting him. Skill wise he's always been superior to Kenobi who couldn't even kill him but cutting him in half. 🙂

False, as force powers Dooku has Anakin beat but Anakin waxed him. Anakin also had superior force powers to Kenobi and lost. 😂

Maul wins based off portrayals and feats. Dooku is weak. He's some captured wimp against Hondo.

Irrelevant as she had a nexus and mauls energy to help her out.

So mauls gets his strength form being angered. Skill wise he has not always been superior to kenobi. If anything they have been equals or kenobi is slightly better.

Well force powers while I admire them and favor them over combat if you don't use them then what's the point in saying that they are a weak point of relative to that. Really as of duelling Dooku can still beat Anakin on a normal day or at least stalemate him and then beat him with his force powers.

Portrayal and feats all go to Dooku. We both agree dookus force powers are greater. So it comes down to dueling as physically maul is better. So with that lest look at victories. Lest start wi maul with TPM.

Darth Maul beat Qui gon Jin

He held his own against jin and obi at the same time

He has easily defeated savage oppress

He has lasted for 24 seconds when pinned against sidious when it was one on one

He was able to hold his own against windu and Ayala secure for a brief moment of time

He was able to hold his own against General grevious

He has been able to stalemate obi wan and defeat him at one point

Defeated pre vizla

Mastered juyo and niman and has some training in tears skasi

Dookus

Has defeated Anakin Skywalker(several times)

Has defeated Obi wan kenobi(several times

Defeated savage oppress

Defeated Quin Lin vos and ventress at the same time

Defeated ventress by himself

Held of ventress and savage at once

Held his own against 3 nightsister while under poison

Held his own against Yoda for 37 seconds

Trained qui gon jin

Has fended off and disarmed grevious with ease

Has a working knowledge of all 7 forms of combat

Is the best makashi specialist of all time even in legends.

Was Abel to hold off Anakins assault in ROTS for a substantial period time

So really feats goes to Dooku as really maul beating qui gon while impressive qui gin has no feats to go off of, as per the movies or even TCW that would help, and also Dooku trained qui gon so he really would easily beat Jin and Dooku has taken on bette version of kenobi. They both best savage with ease. Dooku has beaten Anakin someone above maul that's where the superiority of Dooku comes into place. He has successfully disarmed and defeated people who are better than maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Irrelevant as she had a nexus and mauls energy to help her out.

So mauls gets his strength form being angered. Skill wise he has not always been superior to kenobi. If anything they have been equals or kenobi is slightly better.

Well force powers while I admire them and favor them over combat if you don't use them then what's the point in saying that they are a weak point of relative to that. Really as of duelling Dooku can still beat Anakin on a normal day or at least stalemate him and then beat him with his force powers.

Portrayal and feats all go to Dooku. We both agree dookus force powers are greater. So it comes down to dueling as physically maul is better. So with that lest look at victories. Lest start wi maul with TPM.

Darth Maul beat Qui gon Jin

He held his own against jin and obi at the same time

He has easily defeated savage oppress

He has lasted for 24 seconds when pinned against sidious when it was one on one

He was able to hold his own against windu and Ayala secure for a brief moment of time

He was able to hold his own against General grevious

He has been able to stalemate obi wan and defeat him at one point

Defeated pre vizla

Mastered juyo and niman and has some training in tears skasi

Dookus

Has defeated Anakin Skywalker(several times)

Has defeated Obi wan kenobi(several times

Defeated savage oppress

Defeated Quin Lin vos and ventress at the same time

Defeated ventress by himself

Held of ventress and savage at once

Held his own against 3 nightsister while under poison

Held his own against Yoda for 37 seconds

Trained qui gon jin

Has fended off and disarmed grevious with ease

Has a working knowledge of all 7 forms of combat

Is the best makashi specialist of all time even in legends.

Was Abel to hold off Anakins assault in ROTS for a substantial period time

So really feats goes to Dooku as really maul beating qui gon while impressive qui gin has no feats to go off of, as per the movies or even TCW that would help, and also Dooku trained qui gon so he really would easily beat Jin and Dooku has taken on bette version of kenobi. They both best savage with ease. Dooku has beaten Anakin someone above maul that's where the superiority of Dooku comes into place. He has successfully disarmed and defeated people who are better than maul.

Her weakness was stated your amp bs was not.

False, as Maul has always been greater skill wise than Kenobi. Watch the fights, fanboy.

It doesn't matter what you say since Anakin stomped and killed a superior force user decimating your asinine theory that force powers equate formidability.

Style and weakness against certain styles favor Maul. Age, anger, etc. all favor Maul. He wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Her weakness was stated your amp bs was not.

False, as Maul has always been greater skill wise than Kenobi. Watch the fights, fanboy.

It doesn't matter what you say since Anakin stomped and killed a superior force user decimating your asinine theory that force powers equate formidability.

Style and weakness against certain styles favor Maul. Age, anger, etc. all favor Maul. He wins.

It's Star Wars knowledge this shows you don't know that about Star Wars.

In your opinion however the films and TCW show a different picture. They show equals or a slight advantage for kenobi. I suggest you watch the fight fanboy.

No it doesn't. Were force powers used against Anakin by Dooku in that battle. We have seen in dookus other battles with Anakin that he used his force powers and he defeated Anakin with ease chaining in hai powers with his blade.

Advantages. Dooku has the better advantages. Better force powers and better skills with the lightsabers and he's smarter. While maul is younger and naturally physically better Dooku has and will compensate as seen by how an 80 year old man at the time can hold his own against 2 physically better opponents than himself with ease and win. So physicality isn't going to cut it for maul as Dooku has defeated Anakin who is physically better than maul. He's younger, has better use of force rage and sidious thinks better of him and he's stated to be better than kenobi who is mauls level if not a little bit above. So really Dooku is better than maul. If Dooku can't win with sabers which he can he will win with force powers.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's Star Wars knowledge this shows you don't know that about Star Wars.

In your opinion however the films and TCW show a different picture. They show equals or a slight advantage for kenobi. I suggest you watch the fight fanboy.

No it doesn't. Were force powers used against Anakin by Dooku in that battle. We have seen in dookus other battles with Anakin that he used his force powers and he defeated Anakin with ease chaining in hai powers with his blade.

Advantages. Dooku has the better advantages. Better force powers and better skills with the lightsabers and he's smarter. While maul is younger and naturally physically better Dooku has and will compensate as seen by how an 80 year old man at the time can hold his own against 2 physically better opponents than himself with ease and win. So physicality isn't going to cut it for maul as Dooku has defeated Anakin who is physically better than maul. He's younger, has better use of force rage and sidious thinks better of him and he's stated to be better than kenobi who is mauls level if not a little bit above. So really Dooku is better than maul. If Dooku can't win with sabers which he can he will win with force powers.

Her power levels were less tha normal so she wasn't amped in that scene. We don't need any other scene to describe what she felt save that exact moment, dummy.

Maul disarmed him. Maul taunted and then lost. Kenobi fled from Maul because he knew he couldn't win. He then was force pushed away for another loss. Then Kenobi passed out before Maul. You're a troll.

Dooku is the biggest fool of them all. He looked utterly dumbfounded and stood there while Sheev ordered his death. Weak and dumb. Dooku is slower, older, and less powerful. Maul beats him like Anakin did.

Based on what ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Her power levels were less tha normal so she wasn't amped in that scene. We don't need any other scene to describe what she felt save that exact moment, dummy.

Maul disarmed him. Maul taunted and then lost. Kenobi fled from Maul because he knew he couldn't win. He then was force pushed away for another loss. Then Kenobi passed out before Maul. You're a troll.

Dooku is the biggest fool of them all. He looked utterly dumbfounded and stood there while Sheev ordered his death. Weak and dumb. Dooku is slower, older, and less powerful. Maul beats him like Anakin did.

Based on what ?

Those two things don't equate. She wasn't at normal levels so she wasn't amped? Those two don't equate. She also had mauls energy as well so really with that and being on a nexus, her weakened state was more than made up for. It's not that hard to understand.

So to did kenobi. He disarmed him of one of his blades. As well. The first time when he was all out of control and wasn't thinking straight. Homer look at their next battle and he was more than capable of taking on savage and maul at one time without assistance.

Again he was being played by the master of the game so not really a bad showing for him. Maul was being used all the same as well so really you can't call Dooku out without calling maul out as well. Well really what else was he supposed to do as he doesn't really beg or christopher Lee said he shouldn't beg in that seen and he was surprised as he was loyal to sidious. So weak is someone who could beat maul? Now you call maul pathetic. Good job. Dooku is just as fast if not faster than maul, older yes but really it means nothing as he has defeated much younger opponents than himself, and less powerful in what? If you say the force than we can compare feats and see who is more powerful than the other. How when maul isn't as strong or as skilled or as powerful or as young or as fast as Anakin. He is less in all except age.

Dookus is to powerful in the force. He can easily penetrates mauls force shield and defeat him.

Khan isn't in here? Well he is now, he wins.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Those two things don't equate. She wasn't at normal levels so she wasn't amped? Those two don't equate. She also had mauls energy as well so really with that and being on a nexus, her weakened state was more than made up for. It's not that hard to understand.

So to did kenobi. He disarmed him of one of his blades. As well. The first time when he was all out of control and wasn't thinking straight. Homer look at their next battle and he was more than capable of taking on savage and maul at one time without assistance.

Again he was being played by the master of the game so not really a bad showing for him. Maul was being used all the same as well so really you can't call Dooku out without calling maul out as well. Well really what else was he supposed to do as he doesn't really beg or christopher Lee said he shouldn't beg in that seen and he was surprised as he was loyal to sidious. So weak is someone who could beat maul? Now you call maul pathetic. Good job. Dooku is just as fast if not faster than maul, older yes but really it means nothing as he has defeated much younger opponents than himself, and less powerful in what? If you say the force than we can compare feats and see who is more powerful than the other. How when maul isn't as strong or as skilled or as powerful or as young or as fast as Anakin. He is less in all except age.

Dookus is to powerful in the force. He can easily penetrates mauls force shield and defeat him.

Maul left and she was still against those two while weakened. Undeniable.

Maul still had his weapon. It was cut in half but still usable. Maui left kenobi with no weaponry, 😂 .

Maul used his own rage to unbalance him. He caused that so damn right it counts you fanboy.

Maul didn't die and just sit back and take it like Dooku did. Dooku just sat there looking surprised while anakin ended him.

Maul wasn't ready but he survived. Good for him.

Maul wins due to superior speed and power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul left and she was still against those two while weakened. Undeniable.

Maul still had his weapon. It was cut in half but still usable. Maui left kenobi with no weaponry, 😂 .

Maul used his own rage to unbalance him. He caused that so damn right it counts you fanboy.

Maul didn't die and just sit back and take it like Dooku did. Dooku just sat there looking surprised while anakin ended him.

Maul wasn't ready but he survived. Good for him.

Maul wins due to superior speed and power.

So?

So if that's the case mace never beat sidious had he had a second blade that he could have used.

Yet doing that didn't help maul out when he fought kenobi the first time. It almost cost him his life. Also maul had to resort to something he doesn't like to really use. His force powers.

Nah he just went crazy and got crazy spider legs. What else could Dooku have done. He clusltn have run, and he didn't have any hands so what could he have done.

Maul lives because sidious allowed him to.

Speed nope. Power also no. Dooku is faster, and has better power in both the force and greater skill with the bade.