SSJGod Vegeta vs Vegetto

Not exactly sure how the picture you keep posting disproves the actual source book for the series. And again, Vejito doesn't have to be superior to Bebi for the statement made about him to be true.

And bout your opinion on source books, Mr.Toriyama disagrees with you.....

"This Daizenshuu, the 7th and final one, is a huge Dragon Ball encyclopedia. I think the staff who make these books always have a rough time of it, but this one looked even more hellish than usual. They really did a great job. I am ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author there is lots of stuff even I do not know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all. Anyway, my thanks to the staff, and to all Dragon Ball fans." — Akira Toriyama, Daizenshuu 7, 1996

But I suppose if you want to ignore the very purpose of a source book, you can. I wont. Again, the very definition of a sourcebook is to provide an authoritative basis for the original source.

Ur dumb as shit

Do you actually know what you're talking about?

Originally posted by U need Leonard
Do you actually know what you're talking about?

Do you?

Yes.

Not apparently, cause Galan proved your were wrong and you just carrying on like a toddler.

He's proving things that I'm not saying. Why ask the question if you already had a predetermined opinion on the matter, anyway....That was very "dumb", in and of itself.

The way Bills hushed up Whis when she was going on about how he wanted to blow up planet Vegeta, I'm wondering if he and the individual Saiyans are closer then we think.. Maybe enough where even at 100%, he'd wear himself out if he won, and isn't even confident he'd win every time anymore..

Originally posted by U need Leonard
But I suppose if you want to ignore the very purpose of a source book, you can. I wont. Again, the very definition of a sourcebook is to provide an authoritative basis for the original source.

That's pretty f*cking stupid, tbh.

Originally posted by Galan007
By this 'logic', if a Sourcebook said that Goku is actually a 200 foot tall pink bunny who shits magical rainbows, you'd believe it over the anime/manga's depiction of him... Because in your world, Sourcebooks>original source material.

That's pretty f*cking stupid, tbh.

Good thing that this sourcebook never said such a thing and never will.

Good thing it's an analogy for same logic he's using..? He believes that Sourcebooks supersede the original source material... Which is idiotic, frankly. If a Sourcebook and the original source material are at odds, the original source material is ALWAYS what we default to, as it is ultimately the highest form of canonicity.

Again, this is day-one stuff. It is absolutely ridiculous that I'm still having to discuss such a remedial concept. srsly

I'm having a really hard time imagining SSJ Vegito being close to SSJ4 in power.

A hypothetical SSJ3 Vegito, maybe.

How the hell are people thinking Vegetto is anywhere close to SSGSS? Goku already said it would be useless on the pink cat.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How the hell are people thinking Vegetto is anywhere close to SSGSS? Goku already said it would be useless on the pink cat.

He was clearly talking about metamoran fusion, as he had no potara's to fuse with in the first place.

And Bills is purple.

It doesnt matter, you have stated numerous times Gogeta and Vegetto were almost identical in strength, but Gogeta's time limit would make him lose.

That said SSGSS wins

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It doesnt matter, you have stated numerous times Gogeta and Vegetto were almost identical in strength, but Gogeta's time limit would make him lose.

That said SSGSS wins

I have said that, and I admitted a LONG time ago that Vegetto would crush Gogeta.

SSJ3 Goten would be able to stomp SSJ1 Goku, and SSJ3 Trunks would do the same to SSJ1 Vegeta. So SSJ3 Gotenks would stomp Super Gogeta. But base Vegetto is superior to Buuhan, who was stronger than Buutenks, who was stronger than Mystic Gohan, who was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.

So Base Vegetto > SSJ Gogeta, and probably even SSJ3 Gogeta.

Anyway, no, Vegetto is wayyy too strong, as I've already proven.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, that post is all kinds of wrong. For starters...

Piccolo explicitly stated that SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu were equalish:

IF there was a difference between them one way or the other, it was marginal. [b]At best. The notion that Gotenks was 2x more powerful than Super Buu is laughable. Furthermore, as has been pointed out: Super Buu was explicitly NOT trying to kill Gotenks, because he knew that his added power would be required to fight Gohan:

ie. he was explicitly NOT out for the kill, and wouldn't have risked using any potentially lethal attacks against Gotenks.

However, I'm not saying that Gotenks wasn't more powerful--he may have been. But ALL facts considered(your baseless opinions aren't facts, btw), they were around the same level.

Secondly, Mystic Gohan was, in no way/shape/form, "on par" with Buutenks. In fact, it was an utterly one-sided shit-stomp in Buutenks' favor. Here's the entire battle:
http://i.imgur.com/PIRzPYe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lCi7l9i.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3js7cRB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gH307MO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Fdkz9rD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4RlISey.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lLvmiLj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V78dyJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5jmRFx7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IIOfpvQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nbUFAcQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XFBN7gd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dgUCX22.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZEmGbsm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nT3uJvG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ao1iGzH.jpg

So again: when Super Buu absorbed Gotenks, and doubled his power, he was able to own Mystic Gohan easily... Which means that Gohan wasn't more than 2x> Super Buu.

The rest of your post is so ridiculous that it doesn't even warrant a response. 👆 [/B]

1. What? Piccolo stated in no way, shape, or form, that Gotenks and Buu were "equal". He said that Buu hated to think that someone WAS his equal, not that they were equal. The statement implies nothing more than what it implies, which is that Super Buu was weakened mentally, by the fact that Gotenks was AT LEAST his equal.

2. Yes, Super Buu wasn't explicitly trying to kill Gotenks. BUT GOTENKS WASN'T TRYING TO KILL HIM EITHER, WHICH WAS EXPLICITLY STATED.

It was also stated MANY other times that Gotenks wasn't trying to kill him, simply because it would be more spectacular to have a close fight. Hell, Trunks and Goten even PLANNED this, like a week BEFORE the fight.

3. Also, good job at again avoiding the fact that Gotenks EXPLICITLY STATED that he could kill Super Buu, and Super Buu was terrified. The only reason he didn't was because he unfused at the last second.

4. Um, that fight was pretty damn self-explanatory. Yes, Buutenks was OBVIOUSLY stronger than Gohan, but Gohan was still CLOSE to his strength. Enough to be able to break out of THREE of his galactic doughnuts, and dodge basically EVERY one of his ki blasts, except for the one Buutenks deflected back at him. He was mostly just buying time, but he managed to last over 20 minutes against Buutenks, which means he was pretty damn solid in his ability to fight him.

5. And also, you're forgetting that major statement here that proves this, Goku said that Buutenks had lost "a third of his power!", when he reverted to Buucolo. Which meant that with Goten and Trunks still in him, Gotenks accounted for ONLY A THIRD of his power. And Goku said that Gohan would be able to handle him. Meaning that Buutenks was less than 33% stronger than Gohan. which means that he wasn't even CLOSE to being twice as strong as him.

Also, good job at avoiding the cannon, author-approved, Daizenshuu power levels. Makes ya' look REALLY smart. 👆

Originally posted by AuraAngel

Tada~

Oh wow, this was from Fukkatsu no F, no wonder I didn't know what you were talking about, lol.

Cool though, and thanks for posting. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I have said that, and I admitted a LONG time ago that Vegetto would crush Gogeta.

SSJ3 Goten would be able to stomp SSJ1 Goku, and SSJ3 Trunks would do the same to SSJ1 Vegeta. So SSJ3 Gotenks would stomp Super Gogeta. But base Vegetto is superior to Buuhan, who was stronger than Buutenks, who was stronger than Mystic Gohan, who was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.

So Base Vegetto > SSJ Gogeta, and probably even SSJ3 Gogeta.

Anyway, no, Vegetto is wayyy too strong, as I've already proven.

How is Vegetto beating the strongest form in the DBZ universe to date?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I have said that, and I admitted a LONG time ago that Vegetto would crush Gogeta.

SSJ3 Goten would be able to stomp SSJ1 Goku, and SSJ3 Trunks would do the same to SSJ1 Vegeta. So SSJ3 Gotenks would stomp Super Gogeta. But base Vegetto is superior to Buuhan, who was stronger than Buutenks, who was stronger than Mystic Gohan, who was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.

So Base Vegetto > SSJ Gogeta, and probably even SSJ3 Gogeta.

Anyway, no, Vegetto is wayyy too strong, as I've already proven.

When was there a SSJ3 Trunks? I remember a USSJ but no SSJ3.