Giving Obama another chance

Originally posted by red g jacks
what do you think about the idea that they sorta set the stage for the nazis by using the treaty of versailles to excessively punish the german people?

not sure how accurate that narrative is but i've read it/heard people say it on numerous occasions

cause to me it seems a little easier to condemn them for that than for being so tired of the bloodshed after ww1 so as to be reluctant to engage germany again

also... it seems popular for americans to sort of brag about US contributions to ww2 like the US did europe a huge favor

when arguably we came in late, took the least hits, and benefited immensely from ww2, becoming the top superpower in the world and then eventually the only superpower

not to undermine the american losses or the sacrifices of individual american soldiers of course... just saying i always find that kind of rhetoric a bit ironic

We didn't really come that "late" into WW2, not compared to WW1 anyway. The war had only been going for 2 years when Pearl Harbor happened, and the first year of that had basically been a slapfight called the "Phoney War," so essentially England had only been at war for a year and the Soviet Union for even less than that. There's also a good chance that if Great Britain would have sued for peace if we hadn't been supporting them with money and resources even before we joined the war.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
JFK was the best. A star that shines brightly amoung the stars.

OV still waiting for a response I posted earlier.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I would agree but since they built them their nuclear reactors, makes me think they could care less of them having a nuke. Iran is a huge customer of Russia, nuclear tech, weapons are their major buys. I don't think Russia has as problem with Iran as much as we do with Iran.

Putin still doesn't want to have another near neighbor with nuclear capability. An assertive, powerful Iran would be as much a long-term danger to Russia as it would be to the USA, especially in the Caucasus.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Pretty sure I don't need a lecture, I stated OP thats what I was going to do. I don't know how that was not clear.

It wasn't a lecture. What happens if Obama does something that does not agree with you or others in the future? His entire tenure was placed under scrutiny from the moment he won in his first term. Much of the bad press thrown at Obama came from people that felt that their bottom lines would have been severely threatened by his agendas. These are the same people that greedily hoard billions, while others that are unemployed are not supposed to have a means of even taking care of themselves if they fall ill. Yet you have many of these same unemployed and poor people following an opinion that in actuality served to harm them. I was just saying that as little as 2 weeks ago, I got the opinion that you were against everything that Obama strove to tweak, or change. If you were offended, you shouldn't have been. It wasn't meant to show you up. I'm just saying that Obama isn't perfect, and he never had to be, while also saying that he may do something else that people will not agree with.

JFK was good for his time. Today he may be a terrible choice for America. So much has changed since those days.