Re: Re: ISIS Gunman strikes Marine Recruiters
This is pretty horrible.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ya. What do we do if it was ISIS? Nothing is what this administration will do. Talk, talk, talk...
You do know they're already doing air strikes and providing material support against Isis, right? And heck, the nuke deal with Iran may lead to greater coordination with them to help sandwich Isis. They just aren't doing boots on the ground, and I think most of the US populace is still against getting involved in another land war in Iraq personally. What would your course be?
Re: Re: Re: ISIS Gunman strikes Marine Recruiters
Originally posted by Q99
This is pretty horrible.You do know they're already doing air strikes and providing material support against Isis, right? And heck, the nuke deal with Iran may lead to greater coordination with them to help sandwich Isis. They just aren't doing boots on the ground, and I think most of the US populace is still against getting involved in another land war in Iraq personally. What would your course be?
I think he wants to go to war and lock you down more at home. More surveillance linked to profiles etc.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has it been confirmed this is an ISIS-directed attack?Edit: All I see is that the police and FBI are "investigating" whether the gunman had tangible ties to ISIS.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Isis in no way actively set something up, so much as this is a 'self-radicalized' individual who may have come into contact with Isis or some other radical group via the internet and encouraged to do 'something.'
Originally posted by Q99
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Isis in no way actively set something up, so much as this is a 'self-radicalized' individual who may have come into contact with Isis or some other radical group via the internet and encouraged to do 'something.'
Yeah. I hear that the main thing that stops people from officially joining ISIS is the annoying entrance exams and the paper work is a *****. Not to mention the drug screening.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yeah. I hear that the main thing that stops people from officially joining ISIS is the annoying entrance exams and the paper work is a *****. Not to mention the drug screening. [/B]
The drug screening isn't far from the truth. They beat members for smoking as they deem it to be unislamic.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has it been confirmed this is an ISIS-directed attack?Edit: All I see is that the police and FBI are "investigating" whether the gunman had tangible ties to ISIS.
FBI has declared it domestic terrorism and ISIS had made tweets about it, the account that made the tweets has not been removed.
"Authorities identified the gunman as Kuwait-born Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24, of Hixson, Tennessee, though the spelling of his first name was in dispute, with federal officials and records giving at least four variations."
Trying not to jump to conclusions, but what else could inspire this?
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yeah. I hear that the main thing that stops people from officially joining ISIS is the annoying entrance exams and the paper work is a *****. Not to mention the drug screening. [/B]
Oh, it's easy as heck to join, the main hurdle is normally a plain ticket. Then when one arrives, one gets given crap jobs because Isis doesn't actually care for foreigner recruits, it just wants bodies.
I'm more emphasizing that it's not so Al Qaeda ish network that sends trained agents and actual careful plans, this guy likely has only met other Isis people online and some recruiter egged him on and gave him advice when he showed up. He likely picked out the target himself.
Which is what makes this kind of thing fairly hard to pick up, because it's not like they sent people or money, they just convinced someone to grab a gun and go shooting.
At least, that's my impression just based on MO and such. I could be wrong.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
FBI has declared it domestic terrorism and ISIS had made tweets about it, the account that made the tweets has not been removed."Authorities identified the gunman as Kuwait-born Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24, of Hixson, Tennessee, though the spelling of his first name was in dispute, with federal officials and records giving at least four variations."
Trying not to jump to conclusions, but what else could inspire this?
Although come to think of it, it might be scarier that even if terrorist groups didn't exist their mere example could cause attacks.
I find it kind of funny to see how people try to make it seem like the distinction of people that go around killing others in the way that groups like ISIS propose some how being illigitimized by a made up view point of Being On the Payroll or not.
ITS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION! That hardly falls under being a LEGITIMATE BUSINESS!
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I haven't heard him say anything about gun control oddly enough. However this happened in a gun free zone of Tennessee. I don't know why these gaurds did not have guns though. As this was a military facility.
Give him time. He'll probably start hinting at more gun control soon.
Originally posted by Star428
Of course, Obama's answer to this as usual is that we should have more gun control. He'll use anything as an excuse to try and take our guns away. If guards there had been allowed to carry firearms it could've been prevented.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I haven't heard him say anything about gun control oddly enough. However this happened in a gun free zone of Tennessee. I don't know why these gaurds did not have guns though. As this was a military facility.