This is goku fans fighting speed:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kMtYIYZK7Wg
Goku them are using traveling speed and colliding with each other. It fair game to someone who can travel a solar system in seconds!
Sorry but I have to post this. This will help supes case. Even though I don't have the comic anymore, the scans exist on the internet. Superman punches darkseid and darksied gets angry and starts to power up, causing a shockwave that sends his men flying. Superman then proceeds to gather all his men into one giant ball and send them back into the portal! There's only one scan missing, and that's the scan that really show just How far apart the men are scattered around in the air:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3331760--+%287%29.jpg
And this fight won't get to far:
https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111130700/4000773-5124059715-14959.jpg
Originally posted by Damborgson
Takes low out of context showings and applies them as standard. Not lowballing though.
They aren't out of context and Superman being a punching bag is standard.
That's not lowballing in the slightest?
Superman wasn't weakened or depowered or whatever.
His fight against Sakki shows that Superman can't endure WEAK KI-ATTACKS.
It was showed since at least 30 pages that Superman doesn't have the feat to compete with Goku but continue dreaming.
Deal with it.
DEAL WITH IT
DEAL WITH IT
DEAL WITH IT
Superman solely base on being greater in every category. Goku can't even survive planet destruction and their ki isn't that hot. Besides that superman does hold back to gauge his enemy strength. Like subjeckt 17. In this fight they're fighting at super speed and super is juggling with thoughts on how to finish him and keep him alive:
https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/supermansubjekt173.jpg?w=590&h=931
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138264/3491641-supermanbeaten203.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111147153/3623257-9135694087-36231.jpg
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/5549900-superman+speedblitz+9.jpg
I can't find them in order but you KNOW this will be a simple fight! Super and subjekt couldn't be detected by on lookers in the which they were fighting in the city. I couldn't find that scan though. This in just another character where superman shows speed, and he was holding back.
This that just found also lets the reader know that supes gauge his opponents fighting ability (TAKE hits) before finishing them off:
https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/supermansubjekt1710.jpg
Originally posted by dvampire
This that just found also lets the reader know that supes gauge his opponents fighting ability (TAKE hits) before finishing them off:https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/supermansubjekt1710.jpg
Nothing that you posted is relevant and can be used as an argument for Superman winning or having any advantage over Goku.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Deal with it 😂 then it expands with caps. Told you you take yourself too seriously. Hold on.
Ok. That's not really the effect expected. 😂
Originally posted by dvampire
They complain a lot about the weather and catch colds, what gives them even the slightest chance of victory vs supes? Can he here hv from space or from the other of the planet?! I doubt that.😩
Yeah yeah sure.
What is your next argument ? Does Captain Cold solo the DB-verse ?