In all seriousness, show a scan or point out a feat that remotely compares to the above scans, and I wouldn't lowball it.
I've been on the Dragon Ball side before, seen all the feats. Super brought in a ton more since, but solid reaction feats aren't among them (Which is why some posters were criticizing Hit's time skip only lasting some seconds. Even The World from JoJo had a longer time freeze.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Ahead of Hit's 1 second time skip? 😂Superman resisted full out time freeze:
And Vegeta was killed when Freeza destroyed Earth.
It doesn't matter how powerful Goku is when Superman is so much faster, he can waltz up to Goku at top super speed and suck the air right out of his lungs before he even sees him move.
What point are you making? One second of time skipping is an eternity to people that move faster than Superman and the Flash. Beerus is ahead of Superman in travel speed. He flew across multiple galaxies in seconds. Not to mention that this was a casual feat performed with no effort whatsoever on Beerus' behalf.
Let's also not forget that their attacks crossed the universe in an instant, and Beerus and Goku were exchanging, dodging, and countering countless thousands of these blows every instant. This was all done by a version of Goku FAR weaker than current Goku.
Goku left Superman in the dust long ago. Stop wanking, this is a dead debate.
Originally posted by cdtm
Prove they're faster.Kyle Rayner can cross the universe in a second. Travel speed doesn't mean reaction speed.
Thor and Herc sent out shockwaves across dimensions. gtfo with that shit. 😂
1. I just did.
2. No he can't.
3. Okay? I don't read Marvel, but that's not the discussion here. And SSJ3 Gotenks did that with a shout.
Originally posted by cdtm
In all seriousness, show a scan or point out a feat that remotely compares to the above scans, and I wouldn't lowball it.I've been on the Dragon Ball side before, seen all the feats. Super brought in a ton more since, but solid reaction feats aren't among them (Which is why some posters were criticizing Hit's time skip only lasting some seconds. Even The World from JoJo had a longer time freeze.)
That ft is crap. We don't even know what was going on during that scene. Superman said days and nights was passing by but no such thing was happening. The ft is ambiguous. Time stop, NOTHING is moving. Everything is at a halt.
Also, Superman combat speed is terrible. People like Grundy has speed blitzed him. He said Lobo was too fast for him and Darkseid blitzed him as well.
Originally posted by carver9
That ft is crap. We don't even know what was going on during that scene. Superman said days and nights was passing by but no such thing was happening. The ft is ambiguous. Time stop, NOTHING is moving. Everything is at a halt.Also, Superman combat speed is terrible. People like Grundy has speed blitzed him. He said Lobo was too fast for him and Darkseid blitzed him as well.
I hate taking feats out of context like this, but I guess you're fighting fire with fire here. I'll leave you boys to it.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I hate taking feats out of context like this, but I guess you're fighting fire with fire here. I'll leave you boys to it.
What's out of context on my end? The scans are right there, exactly as I described them. Bloodthirst used a handheld device to slow Superman down, and Supes gradually ramped up the speed until he beat the effect. Just like Gladiator did against Thor.
And the other scan he gets caught in something that was supposed to put him in "chrono suspension". Chrono = Time.
Originally posted by cdtm
What's out of context on my end? The scans are right there, exactly as I described them. Bloodthirst used a handheld device to slow Superman down, and Supes gradually ramped up the speed until he beat the effect. Just like Gladiator did against Thor.And the other scan he gets caught in something that was supposed to put him in "chrono suspension". Chrono = Time.
He was simply accelerating while flying.
That's not acceptable as a combat showing lol.
Wanna see those scans of Superman being punked by Sakki and Grundy again ?
Originally posted by cdtm
What's out of context on my end? The scans are right there, exactly as I described them. Bloodthirst used a handheld device to slow Superman down, and Supes gradually ramped up the speed until he beat the effect. Just like Gladiator did against Thor.And the other scan he gets caught in something that was supposed to put him in "chrono suspension". Chrono = Time.
Superman said days were passing for him (when time is stopped, NOTHING pass. Time is at a halt). The thing about the showing is, what Superman was seeing wasn't happening because the guy with the weapon, not a single day passed, let alone an hour. Days passing for Superman means that time wasn't stopped. It was more at play. Do you know what time stop mean?
cross company comics fight is hard to gauge enough
now with anime its impossible to say
dbz before frieza saga vegeta was capable of destroying earth easily, that was before super saiyan 1, that feat alone would put him easily high herald level in marvel or dc. but his other performance durin that time was not impressive enough for us to believe that. now that the show has evolve to dragon ball super, characters like goku and vegeta has been hundreds of thousand time more powerful than their planet busting old self.