Originally posted by cdtm
Not how time stop works.That Crime Syndicate speedster from the animated movie burnt out his entire life by being too fast. Time slowing is the opposite effect, you can live for 100 years and age less then a day, yet see days and nights pass instantly.
So time stop means time is moving.
Originally posted by cdtm
Localized time effect. Superman was moving slower then the world around him.And we have no idea how long the battle went on for, it could have easily taken days.
The world around him wasn't moving though. Only minutes passed whereas days and nights passed for Superman. That isn't time stop. When time is stopped, the day or night remains the same. I'm asking you again, do you know what time stop mean? Nothing moves when time is at a halt.
We have to just accept that a ki blast isn't lethal to superman at all. What's the biggest feat of pain superman have taken? Let's just go with a black hole, but lets choose something much weaker. Lets go with a laser beam from a weapon from one of lex luthors soldiers. How is a laser formed if it's so hot that it melts through steel? By siphoning specific metals that have been tested. For example, how does diamond get melted and molded into form? By mixing different metals together that can contain enough heat to melt it. So the metal contains it, and other materials are mixed into fire to make it even hotter. So now you have a gun that can hold the heat created to melt diamond and goku is not diamond, but superman melts a kryptonian space ship. There's signs that vegeta struggles with megatta, at a level of ssj. I'm positive that goku at any form just won't be able to bring the heat to megatta. But you're left with an if, and so it's unacceptable to believe superman is an if, because he's not megatta. Your assumption is you're left comparing a earthly metal to superman. And superman can't be harmed at all by earth. Keep swinging with activitity and only goku can sweat, not superman, so CB is legally guessing random of ending life.
Focus is KEY. Will you all accept that the eyes are faster than the hands? I think again, supes win without complications from a ki blast. For instance, if Goku throws a ki blast to race Superman, it’ll be left in the dust. Goku isn’t faster than his ki blast, if he was, it’ll complicate his dodging ability because he’s aware of the length and speed. Both the length and speed he will not be able to avoid because his mind is too slow to keep up. For example, this happen in the show, when Goku or the opponent throws a succession of ki blasts, they start flying, and when the ki blasts starts coming to fast they accept that its best to fly in a straight line to avoid getting hit, because the opponent or Goku have problems aiming at him and vice versa. So their body speeds is too slow. Superman can walk forward as they shoot mutiple ki blasts in succession and he’ll dodge all of THEIR speed. The ki length won’t matter because supes is faster than those too!
The advantage is goku will never discover supermans strength by just hitting him with ki blasts. If a flash of heat shaped into a giant ball of destruction that goes through the sun not iron, and iron is displayed as the greater opposing force, then you should forget beerus and start talking about how yamcha would fair-handicap better. Superman can rest grounded until goku decides on how he can break his skin without causing harm to himself. Care to give calculations on how hot the damn ki blasts are and why they struggle against metal that's not a threat to supes? Supes. Care to explain really you're searious, where gokus strength is at? Can he lift part of the earth at least? And don't feel discourage of disgrace, you don't have a chance, so picking supermans speed just makes much MORE sense whis-yam ha idiot.😲
Originally posted by cdtm
Yes, Superman has the better feats. Dragon Ball is an inconsistent mess.The fact is, Goku can't even lift as much weight as Superman can with his pinky. And Goku's far too slow compared to Supes.
Supsrman wins, with ease.
Superman get ass-kicked by Solomon Grundy...
One-shot by Sakki.
Both characters would be killed by Goku during his sleep.
And that's just two examples over Superman's career.