Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Sheev defeated him but he was pressed. Ridiculous. He was clever when no one knew who he was. He engineered his own death despite even believing himself that Luke would be responsible. He was wrong but his daddy fisnished his dumb ass off.
Sheev defeated him with ease. Sheev is perhaps the smartest person in Star Wars possibly. Maul went whimpering and screaming and begging sidiosu for mercy. So real maul can't be the true lord of the Sith as he can't beat sidious who is the official dark lord of the Sith. The true dark lord of the Sith. Also the most powerful dark lord of the Sith.
He's dead and screamed like a girl to his death. Rest in hell, girly man.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev defeated him but he was pressed. Ridiculous. He was clever when no one knew who he was. He engineered his own death despite even believing himself that Luke would be responsible. He was wrong but his daddy fisnished his dumb ass off.He's dead and screamed like a girl to his death. Rest in hell, girly man.
In your opinion he was pressed. Sidious defeated maul in 24 seconds. He was still clever when people knew. People knew about the emperor in ROTJ yet he lead them into a trap. So no maul isn't the true lord of the Sith. He can't even do force lightning.
Irrelevant. Maul can even do force lightning.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2No, the fight lasted much longer. Sheev took him on for more than 24 seconds. The damage had been done and he had galactic power but still left himself open to Yoda's attack. Dumb Sheev.
In your opinion he was pressed. Sidious defeated maul in 24 seconds. He was still clever when people knew. People knew about the emperor in ROTJ yet he lead them into a trap. So no maul isn't the true lord of the Sith. He can't even do force lightning.Irrelevant. Maul can even do force lightning.
Sheev provided the means for his own destruction which is hilarious indeed. He had galactic power. 😂
Maul doesn't need to because he's a man who didn't scream like a girl after someone tossed him to his death. For all his power he couldn't do a damn thing to stop a one handed Vader with no weapon.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the fight lasted much longer. Sheev took him on for more than 24 seconds. The damage had been done and he had galactic power but still left himself open to Yoda's attack. Dumb Sheev.Sheev provided the means for his own destruction which is hilarious indeed. He had galactic power. 😂
Maul doesn't need to because he's a man who didn't scream like a girl after someone tossed him to his death. For all his power he couldn't do a damn thing to stop a one handed Vader with no weapon.
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The overall battle with sidious toying with him and having savage there to help him lasted longer than that. However there one on one battle after savage was dead lasted 24 seconds. Yoda was the grandmaster of the Jedi order so really he couldnt keep Yoda away seeing as what Yoda did to those two guards, and a lot of droids.
So you laugh at maul as he basically allowed his bi section. I'll laugh with you.
Nah he's a man who screams like a girl and begs for mercy when nothing is even been done to him yet and needs help from his mama to get stuff done. He killed him.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you agree it lasted longer. Brilliant.
The overall battle with sidious toying with him and having savage there to help him lasted longer than that. However there one on one battle after savage was dead lasted 24 seconds. Yoda was the grandmaster of the Jedi order so really he couldnt keep Yoda away seeing as what Yoda did to those two guards, and a lot of droids.So you laugh at maul as he basically allowed his bi section. I'll laugh with you.
Nah he's a man who screams like a girl and begs for mercy when nothing is even been done to him yet and needs help from his mama to get stuff done. He killed him.
Yes, he could have had more than two guards there. Maul survived like a champ and didn't need the emperor and his best mess team to save worthless Anakin's life.
He asked for mercy and later came back at Sheev hard. Not like Dooku who went to his death like a true lemming.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree it lasted longer. Brilliant.Yes, he could have had more than two guards there. Maul survived like a champ and didn't need the emperor and his best mess team to save worthless Anakin's life.
He asked for mercy and later came back at Sheev hard. Not like Dooku who went to his death like a true lemming.
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1v1. Lasted 24 seconds. Savage and Maul vs Sidiosu lasted longer. Maul is weak.
Let's put you in a pit of lava and see how you come out. Might die since you don't have the dark side or strong enough will as faders to survive.
He begged for mercy and came back and lost everything. Also he played into sheets plan again. He wanted maul to escape so he could find Talzin. Then Talzin died and now maul just needs to sit his ass down.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2That wasn't the entirely of their own fight. Maul is a rival to Sheev unlike Dooku.
1v1. Lasted 24 seconds. Savage and Maul vs Sidiosu lasted longer. Maul is weak.Let's put you in a pit of lava and see how you come out. Might die since you don't have the dark side or strong enough will as faders to survive.
He begged for mercy and came back and lost everything. Also he played into sheets plan again. He wanted maul to escape so he could find Talzin. Then Talzin died and now maul just needs to sit his ass down.
He was not put inside of a pot of lava, liar. Vader was saved. He wouldn't have survived on his own u like Maul.
He came back after Sheev and was against him. That's fine as Talzin knew Maul was more important to lose. Maul isn't dead but we know how Sheev's dies. To a one handed cyborg screaming like a victim all the way down.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That wasn't the entirely of their own fight. Maul is a rival to Sheev unlike Dooku.He was not put inside of a pot of lava, liar. Vader was saved. He wouldn't have survived on his own u like Maul.
He came back after Sheev and was against him. That's fine as Talzin knew Maul was more important to lose. Maul isn't dead but we know how Sheev's dies. To a one handed cyborg screaming like a victim all the way down.
One on one was 24 seconds. Not a rival in skill or power. Dooku is closer to sidiosu level than maul is.
He was near in relatively close either way he suffered massive 3rd 4th and possibly 5th degree burns and lost the rest of his legs and his last arm. Maul lost half his body. Maul just isn't as physically durable as vader. Human or bionic.
Actually he was rescued. He needed massive assistance to go against sidiosu and still didn't win.
Point is Maul is a sith but he isn't the true master of the sith. He isn't the most powerful, the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, the best with force, not most skilled with the blade. Sidious holds all those places. Also he can use force lighting maul can't.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Ignoring totality of fight. Speculation x2.
One on one was 24 seconds. Not a rival in skill or power. Dooku is closer to sidiosu level than maul is.He was near in relatively close either way he suffered massive 3rd 4th and possibly 5th degree burns and lost the rest of his legs and his last arm. Maul lost half his body. Maul just isn't as physically durable as vader. Human or bionic.
Actually he was rescued. He needed massive assistance to go against sidiosu and still didn't win.
Point is Maul is a sith but he isn't the true master of the sith. He isn't the most powerful, the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, the best with force, not most skilled with the blade. Sidious holds all those places. Also he can use force lighting maul can't.
He's more so and he doesn't need aid like weakling Anakin. Dooku lightning took Anakin out whereas Maul was still kicking from the more powerful Sheev lightning.
Sidious was rescued by Anakin. Irony.
Maul is the true master of the Sith. Sheev is some dead pansy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ignoring totality of fight. Speculation x2.He's more so and he doesn't need aid like weakling Anakin. Dooku lightning took Anakin out whereas Maul was still kicking from the more powerful Sheev lightning.
Sidious was rescued by Anakin. Irony.
Maul is the true master of the Sith. Sheev is some dead pansy.
Actually no. Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls as stated by the author of Son of dathomir and both of us have agreed to. So really yes Dooku is closer to Sidious than maul is. Also Dooku lasted longer against yoda than maul lasted against Sidious in a one on one battle. Considering yoda was going all out the entire time this is a great feat for Dooku while Sidious was just toying around maul.
Maul didn't suffer the injuries anakin did. With that Anakin/Darth Vader has better durability than maul.
If he was the true master of the sith than why was he Sidious' apprentice and was afraid of him. Sidious then beat him with extreme ease even when he had numbers advantage. Sidious power in the force is also much much much greater than mauls. He's also faster than maul, stronger than maul, smarter than maul, more refined and experienced than maul, and we've seen maul stands no chance and is scared of Sidious. Maul is not the one who vader and Dooku Powell with both greater force powers than maul by a long shot and better dueling skills, weren't going to take on Sidious by himself showing his power. Maul never had that. Not even close. Sidious took him down, with ease.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you agree Dooku gave Sheev more help. No, Dooku did not. He also ford and Sheev also pleat Yoda so who cares. Yoda didn't last three seconds. 😂
Actually no. Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls as stated by the author of Son of dathomir and both of us have agreed to. So really yes Dooku is closer to Sidious than maul is. Also Dooku lasted longer against yoda than maul lasted against Sidious in a one on one battle. Considering yoda was going all out the entire time this is a great feat for Dooku while Sidious was just toying around maul.Maul didn't suffer the injuries anakin did. With that Anakin/Darth Vader has better durability than maul.
If he was the true master of the sith than why was he Sidious' apprentice and was afraid of him. Sidious then beat him with extreme ease even when he had numbers advantage. Sidious power in the force is also much much much greater than mauls. He's also faster than maul, stronger than maul, smarter than maul, more refined and experienced than maul, and we've seen maul stands no chance and is scared of Sidious. Maul is not the one who vader and Dooku Powell with both greater force powers than maul by a long shot and better dueling skills, weren't going to take on Sidious by himself showing his power. Maul never had that. Not even close. Sidious took him down, with ease.
Maul survived being cut in half. Anakin needed aid.,
Sheev was afraid of Yoda. Once the fight started maul took him head on he didn't try to run. Maul was his rival and still lives until shown otherwise.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree Dooku gave Sheev more help. No, Dooku did not. He also ford and Sheev also pleat Yoda so who cares. Yoda didn't last three seconds. 😂Maul survived being cut in half. Anakin needed aid.,
Sheev was afraid of Yoda. Once the fight started maul took him head on he didn't try to run. Maul was his rival and still lives until shown otherwise.
Stay on topic. This is about who is closer to sidiosu level, maul or Dooku. We both now agreed it's Dooku as Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls by a long shot.
Anakin survived having his arm and legs cut off and being burned to the bone before he got help. Vader wins. 😂
He wasn't afraid of yoda. He's afraid of what he could have done as seen by how he fought him, and originally didn't try and run. Well maul did have help, and was begging for mercy at the end. Maul is no longer a rival since he no longer has an army to,control, or at least it's not as powerful and he doesn't have control of mandalore.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Maul is. Dooku has more force power but maul is the better duelist.
Stay on topic. This is about who is closer to sidiosu level, maul or Dooku. We both now agreed it's Dooku as Dookus power in the force is greater than mauls by a long shot.Anakin survived having his arm and legs cut off and being burned to the bone before he got help. Vader wins. 😂
He wasn't afraid of yoda. He's afraid of what he could have done as seen by how he fought him, and originally didn't try and run. Well maul did have help, and was begging for mercy at the end. Maul is no longer a rival since he no longer has an army to,control, or at least it's not as powerful and he doesn't have control of mandalore.
Maul didn't need help and Vader did.
So yes he's afraid of what Yoda could do to him so he was afraid of Yoda. Maul lost and Sheev begged when he lost to Windu. Difference is Maul doesn't run from fights like Sheev does.
We shall see.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul is. Dooku has more force power but maul is the better duelist.Maul didn't need help and Vader did.
So yes he's afraid of what Yoda could do to him so he was afraid of Yoda. Maul lost and Sheev begged when he lost to Windu. Difference is Maul doesn't run from fights like Sheev does.
We shall see.
So with that Dooku is closer to Sidious as really Sidious coils care less about dueling, he prefers force powers. Thus if it came down to it Dooku would prove the bigger threat due to greater force powers. Maul is not a greater duelist than Dooku. Dooku took down the better version of kenobi that maul couldn't beat with his dueling skills. What feats does maul have as a duelist that says he's better than Dooku. I'll tell you Dooku feats.
Dooku beat official Jedi knight on I wan with extrem ease in seconds with his blade alone. Maul got disarmed and kicked, and had to do it with his force powers, which maul doesn't prefer to use. He prefers a pure martial victory.
Dooku has held off/beaten the combined might of Anakin and obi wan. He's disarmed and defeated Anakin. He's defeated savage oppress, Quinn Lin vos, and assaj ventress, was able to hold off the flurry of skill that is yoda without aid for 37 seconds, has disarmed General grevious with ease, compensated for the weaknesses of his style to an extent, has a working knowledge of all seven forms, beaten the combined might of ventress and vos, held off/beaten the combined might of savage oppress and ventress, withstood the force rage assault of anakins Djems so onslaught, trained qui gon Jin. Maul can't take that for a majority.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2We don't ever see Sheev call Dooku a rival so you can speculate based off noting all day long. Maul beat the best version of Kenobi himself and Anakin steamrolled weak Dooku.
So with that Dooku is closer to Sidious as really Sidious coils care less about dueling, he prefers force powers. Thus if it came down to it Dooku would prove the bigger threat due to greater force powers. Maul is not a greater duelist than Dooku. Dooku took down the better version of kenobi that maul couldn't beat with his dueling skills. What feats does maul have as a duelist that says he's better than Dooku. I'll tell you Dooku feats.Dooku beat official Jedi knight on I wan with extrem ease in seconds with his blade alone. Maul got disarmed and kicked, and had to do it with his force powers, which maul doesn't prefer to use. He prefers a pure martial victory.
Dooku has held off/beaten the combined might of Anakin and obi wan. He's disarmed and defeated Anakin. He's defeated savage oppress, Quinn Lin vos, and assaj ventress, was able to hold off the flurry of skill that is yoda without aid for 37 seconds, has disarmed General grevious with ease, compensated for the weaknesses of his style to an extent, has a working knowledge of all seven forms, beaten the combined might of ventress and vos, held off/beaten the combined might of savage oppress and ventress, withstood the force rage assault of anakins Djems so onslaught, trained qui gon Jin. Maul can't take that for a majority.
So what ? Sheev was disarmed by Yoda and had to use force powers to win. Dooku used force powers to beat Kenobi as well, dummy. 😂
Maul wins due to being quicker and more powerful.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't ever see Sheev call Dooku a rival so you can speculate based off noting all day long. Maul beat the best version of Kenobi himself and Anakin steamrolled weak Dooku.So what ? Sheev was disarmed by Yoda and had to use force powers to win. Dooku used force powers to beat Kenobi as well, dummy. 😂
Maul wins due to being quicker and more powerful.
Can you not think for yourself. We have deduced Dooku is more powerful than maul in the force thus is closer to Sidious in the force and with that would pose a bigger threat. I've already rebutted the rival thing as Sidious meant that as a rival sith faction trying to usurp the rule of two. I've already beaten that. Circumstances are the reason maul won against him the first duel. Kenobi had just been beaten up and thrown around by maul and savage. He was using a saber he doesn't really use, and has no evidence showing he has training with it. All she was using force rage while training with soresu. Yet we see them fight again and kenobi shows he can match maul in saber combat.
Sidious is a master of the force and its approved that he prefers using his force powers rather than his martial ability. He has really gone beyond the use of a lightsbaer just like yoda. Maul is the complete opposite. He prefers to use sabers, while he can use the force whenever he does to finish things off shows he's desperate. Dooku is also a force wielded by nature. He seems to be a little balanced instead of relying on swordsmanship more than the force or vice versa. Learn a little something quan.
Again Dooku has shown he can match the speeds of yoda who is faster than maul. Also Dookus power in the force being greater would allow his force speed to be faster than mauls undoubtedly. More powerful in what aspect? If it's sabers just say more skilled since its with a saber. Again Dooku is more skilled as shown by his feats. I'm waiting on feats for maul that can challenge Dooku.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Force knowledge doesn't equate to more formidability. You speculated.
Can you not think for yourself. We have deduced Dooku is more powerful than maul in the force thus is closer to Sidious in the force and with that would pose a bigger threat. I've already rebutted the rival thing as Sidious meant that as a rival sith faction trying to usurp the rule of two. I've already beaten that. Circumstances are the reason maul won against him the first duel. Kenobi had just been beaten up and thrown around by maul and savage. He was using a saber he doesn't really use, and has no evidence showing he has training with it. All she was using force rage while training with soresu. Yet we see them fight again and kenobi shows he can match maul in saber combat.Sidious is a master of the force and its approved that he prefers using his force powers rather than his martial ability. He has really gone beyond the use of a lightsbaer just like yoda. Maul is the complete opposite. He prefers to use sabers, while he can use the force whenever he does to finish things off shows he's desperate. Dooku is also a force wielded by nature. He seems to be a little balanced instead of relying on swordsmanship more than the force or vice versa. Learn a little something quan.
Again Dooku has shown he can match the speeds of yoda who is faster than maul. Also Dookus power in the force being greater would allow his force speed to be faster than mauls undoubtedly. More powerful in what aspect? If it's sabers just say more skilled since its with a saber. Again Dooku is more skilled as shown by his feats. I'm waiting on feats for maul that can challenge Dooku.
Sheev lost to Windu with his saber and then got burned when he used his force powers to his superior Windu.
Anakin was more powerful than Dooku as said by Sheev so force knowledge doesn't mean shit even according to Sheev. The same goes for Maul.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Force knowledge doesn't equate to more formidability. You speculated.Sheev lost to Windu with his saber and then got burned when he used his force powers to his superior Windu.
Anakin was more powerful than Dooku as said by Sheev so force knowledge doesn't mean shit even according to Sheev. The same goes for Maul.
In a pure force battle and even in a dueling ring yes it does. If I have a force advantage and you have a dueling advantage the person with the force advantage 9/10 is going to win as I'm more powerful than you and I can attack from a distance while you would ahve to enclose the distance to do something.
Again for now him losing to windu is speculation as we don't know the official answer. Also sith mask not denied, and very backed up by the movies. Really? Mace needed an amp to contend, be a perfect stalemate to Sidious. Take that away and he's running for the hills just like he was at the begging not of the battle.
More powerful means more powerful in the force dummy. If he meant in saber she would say more skilled. Force knowledge is all sheer cares about. Sabers he really consultants care less about. Maul and sheet are different. Maul doesn't care for the force, while sheev loves it.