Thon vs Vodo Baas vs Arca Jeth

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Thon vs Vodo Baas vs Arca Jeth

Who's the strongest of these three big names of the Tales of the Jedi era? The greatest of the masters before the rise of Exar and Nomi's generation?

How do they rank?

Thon solidly, I would also put Baas over Jeth just to entertain your question.

Genuinely hard to say tbh

They're all roughly peers of eachother anyway

Jeth edging them out in battle meditation, Thon probably possessing slightly more raw power, and Baas is probably the top duelist of the 3.

Jeth arguably goes down first though :hmm

I'd say Odan-Urr has them all beat in a Force Battle from some of the accolades he's accrued though had you included him.

Thon>Vodo>Jeth, imo.

It's made real clear by Kun that taking down Thon is a much harder feat than any other Jedi Master.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It's made real clear by Kun that taking down Thon wlis much harder than any other Jedi Master.

How so?

Only remember them never meeting

He sends Crado with Oss Wilum to kill Thon and says he will need the help to accomplish it, whereas all the others are just attacked by their own apprentices, he probably would have gone himself if not for his own master still hanging around.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He sends Crado with Oss Wilum to kill Thon and says he will need the help to accomplish it, whereas all the others are just attacked by their own apprentices, he probably would have gone himself if not for his own master still hanging around.

To be fair, he wanted to off Baas personally IIRC and he'd already killed Urr, so we don't exactly know who he'd have sent to deal with what was basically the Grand Master of the Order and "Bane of the Sith" for the last 1000 years.

Though sending Oss Wilum and Crado after Thon doesn't strike me as a wringing endorsement for Thon's overall superiority :hmm

Well yes he killed Odan-Urr himself, probably would have gone himself, he had to kill Vodo out of personal satisfaction. Thon is really powerful, not saying the others aren't but he hand to hand takes on three(?) Hssiss and does well without the Force, these Hssiss are much bigger and presumably stronger than the ones on Korriban.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Well yes he killed Odan-Urr himself, probably would have gone himself, he had to kill Vodo out of personal satisfaction. Thon is really powerful, not saying the others aren't but he hand to hand takes on three Hssiss and does well without the Force, these Hssiss are much bigger and presumably stronger than the ones on Korriban.

Could you post the specific quote where Kun specifically asks the pair to off Thon due to his power?

Because the comic kind of skips straight into the fight from the senate scene without much on how we got there

So what you're positing sounds more like conjecture to me :hmm

Sending Crado with Wilum might have just been him anticipating Sunrider and Sylvar for example?

Like I said, Odan-Urr while lacking in feats to be sure has the accolades in spade to be placed comfortably above Thon anyway :hmm (Grand Master, "bane of the Sith", the Yoda of his day, etc)

Thon also contained the devastation of Ambria to lake Nath

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Thon also contained the devastation of Ambria to lake Nath

Indeed

Which was caused by an amount of Dark Side energy more powerful than any the Order had on record (so, contextually, Naga Sadow's Denarii Nova Solar Flares and the Chain Reaction at Primus Goluud)

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Which was caused by an amount of Dark Side energy more powerful than any the Order had on record (so, contextually, Naga Sadow's Denarii Nova Solar Flares and the Chain Reaction at Primus Goluud)

Holy shit!

Quote please?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Holy shit!

Quote please?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111155790/4700003-5697017890-tEJc7.png

3rd paragraph

Makes sense given it razed the planet too

Right, and you're a Bane fan?

http://i.imgur.com/llZurzO.png
http://i.imgur.com/V7bzbdf.png

Have fun

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111155790/4700003-5697017890-tEJc7.png

3rd paragraph

Makes sense given it razed the planet too


Thank you very much!

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Right, and you're a Bane fan?

http://i.imgur.com/llZurzO.png
http://i.imgur.com/V7bzbdf.png

Have fun


I already had that quote, hence my interest in the first quote you gave me. But thanks anyways 😄

No problem

You really didn't need that page like I noted though

Planet razing is hilariously energetic and all, akin to Solar Flares and the like either way

Here:

Crado: "What-what do you want me to do Exar? am I supposed to ..kill Master Vodo?"
Exar Kun: "No Crado, go with Oss Wilum. He may need your help, Master Thon will be difficult. Leave Vodo to me..."

Originally posted by AncientPower
Here:

Crado: "What-what do you want me to do Exar? am I supposed to ..kill Master Vodo?"
Exar Kun: "No Crado, go with Oss Wilum. He may need your help, Master Thon will be difficult. Leave Vodo to me..."

Got a page number? :hmm

Eh, I can probably find it myself with the context you've given me anyway.

All the same, wouldn't use this as concrete proof Kun wouldn't have taken on Thon alone.

He was certainly accounting for his awesome power, yes, but Kun could just as easily be interpreted as trying to be efficient in killing the masters simultaneously and not giving them a chance to regroup.

And as he has a personal grudge with Vodo, you can't use this quote to concretely place Thon above Vodo.

Granted, I do give it to Thon, just not exactly an easy fight be it dueling or Force with the accolades Vodo has to his name.

Do think they'd all go down about as easily as Odan-Urr though if Kun bothered to use the Force as he did with the ancient ****er :hmm

Kun was canonically stated to be far more powerful than any Jedi of his time so it would not have mattered who he faced, he'd kill any of them.

I know :maybe

Hell, post massassi drain ritual, he had enough power to somewhat match the combined Jedi Order's Wall of Light given he was only contained to Yavin IV and not outright obliterated like he was 4000 years later from how I understand it

Can't be that far beneath it if you still exist in some form.