The case of Sandra Bland

Just curious what people thought of this case? She was a woman who was arrested on a Friday after an altercation with an officer during a routine traffic stop. By the time Monday rolled around she was dead, apparently having killed herself.

Almost immediately people jumped on it and were claiming the cops must of killed her. However, the autopsy recently came out and showed she had no defensive wounds or anything that might overtly suggest foul play. An inmate held in a cell very near hers has said they heard no screaming or commotion before she was found dead, again suggesting no foul play was involved.

There are still a few loose ends, like where did she get the garbage bag she hung herself with? But they still ruled it as a suicide.

The family disagree's with the ruling and says she would never of killed herself because she was about to start a new job. Though some have wondered if the fear of losing that new job due to her arrest caused her to do this.

More info:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/us/sandra-bland/

So do you guys think this was a suicide or do you think foul play was somehow involved?

She killed herself. Nothing more to say really, she even admitted to police she had tried before.

I realize that, but a lot of people seem to think she did not kill herself.

On a different note: do you feel the cop was out of line for arresting her? Do you feel she should of been put on suicide watch? Since some people changed their tune from "the cops killed her" to "the cops should of paid more attention".

It was a strange case because she admitted to being suicidal in the past, but also said she wasn't currently suicidal. Yet it was also reported she was crying and stuff while in jail.

I really don't know. Usually when you are put in jail they take anything from you that would be able to harm yourself or anyone else.

She was arrested on bogus bullshit, and wasn't granted her constitutional rights, that's the first issue with the whole thing, it further illustrates how advice of how to deal with cops does not work the same for black people, because they are targeted differently.

Whether she killed herself or there was further foul play needs to be investigated further, but just for the unjustified arrest the police officer and possibly the whole department should receive punishment.

she was arrested for resisting arrest. if you support that then you piss on the bill of rights and support a police-state. /fact

I disagree on how advice on how to deal with cops does not work for black people. This woman did not listen to the cops, she refused to put out a cigarette when asked and refused to get out of her vehicle when asked.

Now you can argue whether or not she LEGALLY had to do those things, but to say the things that people say you should do when you are confronted by a cop don't work are wrong in this case because everyone tells you to pretty much shut up and listen to the police officer.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she was arrested for resisting arrest. if you support that then you piss on the bill of rights and support a police-state. /fact

Bardock is a foreigner who supports anarchy in America because he does not like America.

Also..not that this makes it right, but this was not her first encounter with police officers. By that I mean she had committed crimes in the past.

a police officer does not have the right to arrest you for not obeying their arbitrary whim after being let off for whatever citation you were stopped for. you couldnt be more wrong.

One thing that bugs me is I've seen a lot of people claiming she never would of been pulled over in the first place if she wasn't black. Whether you think the cops were right or wrong that is a silly thing to say.

Originally posted by Surtur
One thing that bugs me is I've seen a lot of people claiming she never would of been pulled over in the first place if she wasn't black. Whether you think the cops were right or wrong that is a silly thing to say.

Why? Black people get pulled over considerably more than white people.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? Black people get pulled over considerably more than white people.

...but that isn't what is being said. What is being said is that no white person would of been pulled over for doing the traffic violations the black woman did.

Which I already know is utterly false since I am white and have been pulled over for the same exact things she was. One time I was let off with a warning(because I was courteous) and the second time I was ticketed. If people want to claim blacks get pulled over more fine, but when they say "cops don't pull over white people for this" I have a problem.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? Black people get pulled over considerably more than white people.

How would you know?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How would you know?

Statistics

Your an anarchist, so why would you care?

You think I'm both a big-government liberal and an anarchist.

if you deny the point that a black person has far more of a chance of being stopped for the most minor infractions (or nothing at all, which the NYPD made official), then i guess you're just not in the mood to be reasonable today.

1) The cop initiated the stop by quickly driving up behind her...as she clearly states on video...she moved over to allow him to pass as anyone would do...she didn't signal because NO ONE signals before moving out of the way of a speeding police car-you just get out of the way

2) The cop has NO business asking her to put out her cigarette...it's funny how some say that we are turning into a police state but then say that "they" need to do whatever the cop tells "them" to do.

3) He places her under arrest for "resisting arrest"... that makes absolutely no since. Especially considering the initial report was that she "assaulted" the cop which is a blatant LIE. It's clear that he enjoys his "power" and looses control when that authority is challenged.

4)Why would he take her out of camera range?

Did she kill herself? It's impossible for me to speculate...but it is very clear that the cop was wrong from the very beginning-from the bogus initial stop to escalating rather than deescalating the situation.

And I dare anyone to state that he/she would be all smiles and giggles if/when a cop improperly confronts you. I am one of the most carefree-laid back people you would ever meet and I will tell you from personal experience that you will loose your cool when a cop tries to step on you.

And the bullshit about her having had been in trouble with the law before is just a smoke screen. Most of the adults today would be locked away if we are using that bullshit argument, so please just stop with that.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Bardock is a foreigner who supports anarchy in America because he does not like America.