God Doom Vs Emperor Joker

Which cosmic wielder wins?

Best feat for cosmic Doom? I know he is running on stolen power, so I'm not asking for feats of the people whose power he stole, but specifically feats for what he himself has done with this power.

Recreated Franklin Richards, Galactus, and Eternity. Killed Phoenix Force Cyclops, and is the lone force holding reality together.

As of now, Joker wins.

He warped the existing universe in his own image. Caused havok all the way up to the 5th dimension(per Mxy.) Destroyed the universe with an ACME bomb. Recreated the universe from scratch, with a gesture. Easily overpowered(and imprisoned) the Spectre-force. Very nearly succeeded in collapsing all universeS, across all timelineS, into a singularity.

Originally posted by "Id"
Recreated Franklin Richards, Galactus, and Eternity. Killed Phoenix Force Cyclops, and is the lone force holding reality together.

Just out of curiosity..did the people he recreated show they were just as potent as they were before?

Originally posted by Galan007
As of now, Joker wins.

He warped the existing universe in his own image. Caused havok all the way up to the 5th dimension(per Mxy.) Destroyed the universe with an ACME bomb. Recreated the universe from scratch, with a gesture. Easily overpowered(and imprisoned) the Spectre-force. Very nearly succeeded in collapsing all universeS, across all timelineS, into a singularity.

Some of those feats are not from Emperor Joker, who only had 99% of Mxy's power. Likewise, I'm pretty sure some come from the "Worlds Finest" story, which I've seen people say is not canon.

I know Emp Joker did still warp reality on a universal scale.

^ ALL of those feats were accomplished by Emperor Joker. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
^ ALL of those feats were accomplished by Emperor Joker. srsly

Sorry my bad, I had thought the bomb one at least was done by Mxy and Batmite.

But yeah..this is a stomp then for Joker.

yeah, joker pwns.

Doom loses, hard.

Eternity is an abstract, relatively omnipotent entity representing all time and reality in the universe. It's been around since before the beginning of the actual universe.
Doom recreated that. That's a step up from warping an existing universe. Doom FTW.

Originally posted by riv6672
Eternity is an abstract, relatively omnipotent entity representing all time and reality in the universe. It's been around since before the beginning of the actual universe.
Doom recreated that. That's a step up from warping an existing universe. Doom FTW.

Joker also recreated, not just an abstract from the universe, but the entire universe......and everything/one in it, including all abstracts contained within.

I see what you're saying.
I see Eternity as an abstract OF, not from. Both recreated the same thing, except Doom's had arms, legs, a mind and a voice.
Even if you dont buy off on that though, both are at roughly equal levels. In that scenario (from cosmic to street level) i'd always take Doom over Joker.

Isn't God Doom more powerful then LT as well?

Originally posted by riv6672
Eternity is an abstract, relatively omnipotent entity representing all time and reality in the universe. It's been around since before the beginning of the actual universe.
Doom recreated that. That's a step up from warping an existing universe. Doom FTW.

But creating a being like Eternity is actually less impressive then casually recreating the entire universe. Eternity itself can't do that.

Not to mention do we even know the beings Doom created are just as potent as the originals?

Just by power I think EJ wins but couldn't Doom outsmart the Joker. Joker is insane and plays too much, that might give Doom an advantage.

Considering Joker matches wits with Batman - he's not exactly easy to trick like Mxy or the Beyonder.

EJ wins

May God Doom have mercy upon this mortal.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Just by power I think EJ wins but couldn't Doom outsmart the Joker. Joker is insane and plays too much, that might give Doom an advantage.