God Doom Vs Emperor Joker

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Zack M Senior Member

Now that Secret Wars has gone on further...

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Surtur
But creating a being like Eternity is actually less impressive then casually recreating the entire universe. Eternity itself can't do that.

Not to mention do we even know the beings Doom created are just as potent as the originals?

Eternity is a universe.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Emperor Joker. For some reason, something seems 'off' about God Doom.

Time-Immemorial Restricted

Doom wins, but seriously Joker wins.

😂

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Couldn't Doom easily create whatever device needed to steal Joker's power?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Zack M
Now that Secret Wars has gone on further...
Now that we're starting to see how fallible God Emperor Doom is, Joker definitely wins.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Couldn't Doom easily create whatever device needed to steal Joker's power?
Yes.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Dunno. I'd think he would need to have a pretty in-depth understanding of the 5D magic/super-science Mxy uses, in order to steal it from him... Not sure if even Doom would have that type of knowledge on the fly.

...Though I wouldn't put it past him either.

ozz81 Senior Member

What is God Dooms best feat?

Stoic Avenger

I'd tend to think that this would depend on which character had a firmer grip on reality.

Time-Immemorial Restricted
Originally posted by ozz81
What is God Dooms best feat?

Slapping mindset around

SquallX Senior Member

Been a while since i read Emperor Joker and it's tie ins, but wasn't it implied that Mxy allowed Joker to steal his powers?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Nah. Mxy's original plan was to give Joker like 1% of his power. However, Joker duped Mxy into inadvertently giving him 99.9% of it:
http://i.imgur.com/8J6EwOo.jpg

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Surtur

But creating a being like Eternity is actually less impressive then casually recreating the entire universe.


... My friend, Eternity's totality (when "Infinity" is not recognized)

is the embodiment of all creation/space-time across the trans-infinite Multiverse.

Originally posted by Surtur

Eternity itself can't do that.


A fraction of Eternity does that, all day, everyday!

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Mr Master
... My friend, Eternity's totality (when "Infinity" is not recognized)

is the embodiment of all creation/space-time across the trans-infinite Multiverse.

A fraction of Eternity does that, all day, everyday!


Joker was going to destroy every universe that ever existed or will be.

Essentially the entirety of space time. The infinite hypertime which encompasses everything that is, was or will exist.

Mxy had to reset entire space time to restore everything.

Eternity gets killed by beyonders who get killed by an explosion that destroyed several hundred thousand universes.

Nothing compared to what Joker can do here.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I agree. Unless Doom starts pulling major feats out of his ass, it goes back to what I said a few months ago:

Originally posted by Galan007
As of now, Joker wins.

He warped the existing universe in his own image. Caused havok all the way up to the 5th dimension(per Mxy.) Destroyed the universe with an ACME bomb. Recreated the universe from scratch, with a gesture. Easily overpowered(and imprisoned) the Spectre-force. Very nearly succeeded in collapsing all possible universeS, across all possible timelineS, into a singularity. Etc.

SquallX Senior Member
Originally posted by Galan007
Nah. Mxy's original plan was to give Joker like 1% of his power. However, Joker duped Mxy into inadvertently giving him 99.9% of it:
http://i.imgur.com/8J6EwOo.jpg

I guess i got the Batmite is part me scene mixed up. I could've swore Mxy did all that because he was bored.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend

Eternity gets killed by beyonders
who get killed by an explosion that destroyed several hundred thousand universes.

That's one bad ass Joker, but, I was never making a case for Eternity or anyone else.
I was only correcting a claim that wasn't accurate.

As for the Beyonders getting killed by anything less than the LT, is pis to me.
Simple pis Hickman got himself into when he realized there was no logical way to defeat the Beyonders.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by SquallX
I guess i got the Batmite is part me scene mixed up. I could've swore Mxy did all that because he was bored.
Yeah, Mxy still stated that it was unintentional...

Mxy: "You were never meant to have access to all ay 5th dimensional magics. That was my bad. That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back.":
http://i.imgur.com/itg7KYW.jpg

Later in the same comic, we saw what/who that "one little bit" was:
http://i.imgur.com/GnfEiQf.jpg

ie. Bat-Mite=a fraction of Mxy's own power.

SquallX Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Mxy still stated that it was unintentional...

Mxy: "You were never meant to have access to all ay 5th dimensional magics. That was my bad. That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back.":
http://i.imgur.com/itg7KYW.jpg

Later in the same comic, we saw what/who that "one little bit" was:
http://i.imgur.com/GnfEiQf.jpg

ie. Bat-Mite=a fraction of Mxy's own power.

Read that wrong. I thought Mxy purposely gave Joker all his powers because he thought ill be fun.