Last time I checked he has never proven himself to be much more than a somewhat powerful Force User with no offensive Force threat whatsoever/a lightsaber specialist that hasn't really established himself to be all that great with a lightsaber either. Obi-Wan level perhaps, but not Dooku level, and certainly not Yoda level.
What are his best Force/lightsaber feats, and what would you say are his low showings?
Originally posted by appletonia
What are his best Force/lightsaber feats
Best saber feats include.
Defeating Anoon Bondara who's lightsaber mastery was considered second to none.(source is either the Power of the Jedi source book or one the essential guides)
Beating Darsha Assant whom was a decently skilled duelist.
And he held off, Jinn and Obi-Wan, although several sources state that they would have beaten him were it not for Maul separating them.
Then he killed one of the best lightsaber duelists of the Jedi order, Qui-Gon Jinn.
TCW.
"humbled" Savage Opress.
Dueled Obi-Wan Kenobi and Asajj Ventress along side Savage Opress.
Dueled Obi-Wan Kenobi and Adi Gallia along side Savage opress.
Bested and killed Pre Viszla.(meh)
Dueled Darth Sidious alongside Savage.
captured Count Dooku.
Dueled(?) General Grievous
took on Mace Windu and Aayla Secura for an unspecified amount of time.
That's about it for dueling feats. I'm sure ILS' RT will provide more information.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Best saber feats include.Defeating Anoon Bondara who's lightsaber mastery was considered second to none.(source is either the Power of the Jedi source book or one the essential guides)
Beating Darsha Assant whom was a decently skilled duelist.
And he held off, Jinn and Obi-Wan, although several sources state that they would have beaten him were it not for Maul separating them.
Then he killed one of the best lightsaber duelists of the Jedi order, Qui-Gon Jinn.
TCW.
"humbled" Savage Opress.
Dueled Obi-Wan Kenobi and Asajj Ventress along side Savage Opress.
Dueled Obi-Wan Kenobi and Adi Gallia along side Savage opress.
Bested and killed Pre Viszla.(meh)
Dueled Darth Sidious alongside Savage.
captured Count Dooku.
Dueled(?) General Grievous
took on Mace Windu and Aayla Secura for an unspecified amount of time.
That's about it for dueling feats. I'm sure ILS' RT will provide more information.
Grievous is not the same entity he once was. Defeating him is no longer impressive at all.
Anoon Bondara was an extremely skilled swordsman but there really isnt anything to suggest he was remotely powerful in the Force, and that's usually what makes the difference.
Qui-Gon Jinn was an Obi-Wan type. Very skilled swordsman, powerful, but he's simply not powerful enough to put him among the elite. Same with Obi-Wan.
How well did he do against Sidious?
What are the circumstances behind his capturing of Dooku?
You say that he took on Mace Windu (and Aayla) for an unspecified amount of time; did he get to demonstrate anything at all that can enable a proper comparison between him and Mace?
For the record, I'm not saying he isn't skilled. I simply think there's a world of difference between say, Yoda and Count Dooku, and likewise a world of difference between say, Count Dooku and Obi-Wan, and I personally have Maul at around Obi-Wan level as it stands (though maybe I'm underestimating him).
Revan's a largely unknown quantity last time I checked, but the evidence generally suggests that he was an incredibly powerful Force User on a par with the likes of Exar Kun and Bane, and if there is anybody in Maul's era that's on that level it's the Yodas and the Palpatines, not the Qui-Gons and Obi-Wans.
Originally posted by appletonia
I simply think there's a world of difference between say, Yoda and Count Dooku, and likewise a world of difference between say, Count Dooku and Obi-Wan, and I personally have Maul at around Obi-Wan level as it stands (though maybe I'm underestimating him).
There isn't a world of difference in saber skill, though. Dooku trashes Obi-Wan via efficient use of TK and force powers - as a duelist, he's still obviously better, but there is less of a gap than you think.