How powerful is Darth Bane? [Discussion]

DISCLAIMER: Trolling or banter will NOT be tolerated in this thread.

There has been a lot of reporting / moderator issues going on lately with members, reporting people for expressing their personal opinions on Bane. This thread will, as a community, gather a respectable and reasonable approach for Bane that avoids bias or trolling. The idea is that, in the future, if a topic is reported for someone believing Bane dies, which happens quite a lot, we can simply link the moderators to this thread to understand that the majority of people do indeed place Darth Bane there, and that the minority is reporting people out of their own incredible bias. I posted some questions below to help start the discussion:

1.) Is Darth Bane the weakest member of the Rule of Two, which is the entire point of well... the Rule of Two?
2.) Does nexus' have a major impact on feats, and should they be used as an indication of power in Bane debates?
3.) Is Darth Bane, well, a powerful and skilled opponent, or was that what he wanted as the end product of the Rule of Two?

Also, just wanted to post some matchups to see where we all stand:

a.) Darth Bane vs Uthar Wynn
b.) Darth Bane vs Asajj Ventress
c.) Darth Bane vs Darth Maul
d.) Darth Bane vs Darth Vader
a). Darth Bane vs rots!Palpatine

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Please do not troll my thread. We want respectable opinions here, not worthless banter.

This is your only warning.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
😆 😆 😆 I see I pushed more than a few buttons there. umad, Ant? 😆 😆 😆

Reported for harassment and trolling.

Reported for make a troll thread to harass me. That you made it mere minutes after an exchange with me is hysterically transparent.

Harass you? Where? And lol, we get into exchanges every hour. 😬

Is every other thread I made on KMC an attack on you too?

The fact we can't simply discuss Bane without you flipping your shit is the reason this thread was made.

You are only further proving why we need a community effort like this.

Please do get the moderators involved. They admitted they don't really know much about EU characters, and this thread, as a community, will help them figure out where Bane should normally be placed to pick apart trolling from a respectable opinion.

I agree with Ant here. Personally, I'm having trouble placing Bane, so seeing the thoughts of others and where they place him is a good idea.

Neph, try to calm down, please.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Harass you? Where? And lol, we get into exchanges every hour. 😬

Is every other thread I made on KMC an attack on you too?

The fact we can't simply discuss Bane without you flipping your shit is the reason this thread was made.

You are only further proving why we need a community effort like this.

Please do get the moderators involved. They admitted they don't really know much about EU characters, and this thread, as a community, will help them figure out where Bane should normally be placed to pick apart trolling from a respectable opinion.

Right. Maybe you should edit the OP again to make even less specific mentions of me, just to make it more clear how this thread totally isn't about harassing me.

This thread is nothing but an attempt on your part to get mod support behind your trolling and enforce a ruling on the character. It seems you're determined to prove Dmb wrong about how childish you really are.

I don't recall any mentions of you, unless they are rather broad of purely speculative in nature.

This thread has already established we will not tolerate trolling.

It would be impossible for the moderators to support whatever this "trolling" nonsense you're babbling about unless the majority literally supports it.

Or, perhaps, what you define as "trolling" is, in reality, how people see Bane. Or maybe not, and they are trolling - let's find out together.

Originally posted by Aurbere
I agree with Ant here. Personally, I'm having trouble placing Bane, so seeing the thoughts of others and where they place him is a good idea.

I'm going to make a post regarding the actual content of the thread now.

I don't really understand what is going on between you two (Neph and Ant), but it's kind of derailing a thread that can be very helpful. I for one believe that a community should have some understanding of a character if they prove controversial. So, with that in mind, I'll make my own contribution.

1.) Is Darth Bane the weakest member of the Rule of Two, which is the entire point of well... the Rule of Two?

I've always believed that this should be the case. He should logically be the weakest of the Rule of Two, since the point was to create a line to create a Sith strong enough to take down the Republic. And there are quotes saying this.

2.) Does nexus' have a major impact on feats, and should they be used as an indication of power in Bane debates?

They should, obviously, have an impact on his feats. They give him more power to draw on. I don't think they should be used as indications of his power.

3.) Is Darth Bane, well, a powerful and skilled opponent, or was that what he wanted as the end product of the Rule of Two?

He is obviously powerful and skilled, but not in the same league as the end of his line.

a.) Darth Bane vs Uthar Wynn

Win.

b.) Darth Bane vs Asajj Ventress

Win, perhaps.

c.) Darth Bane vs Darth Maul

Loses.

d.) Darth Bane vs Darth Vader

Loses.

a). Darth Bane vs rots!Palpatine

Loses pretty badly.

My thoughts. Maybe now the thread can go in the proper direction.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't recall any mentions of you, unless they are rather broad of purely speculative in nature.

Omg you actually did it and now you're lying about it. Wow.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Omg you actually did it and now you're lying about it. Wow.

Unless you didn't notice I mainly added the big bold "DISCLAIMER" thing.

Besides, if I did have your name, it's not there anymore, so no harm done. 👆

Now please, leave the thread or say something useful to the discussion at hand.
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@Aurbere: All interesting thoughts. I'll get back to you soon.

Originally posted by Aurbere
2.) Does nexus' have a major impact on feats, and should they be used as an indication of power in Bane debates?

They should, obviously, have an impact on his feats. They give him more power to draw on. I don't think they should be used as indications of his power.

Honestly feel the benefits of a nexus are over hyped tbh

They're are some fairly notable showings by Jedi on fairly potent dark side nexus that, were nexuses to give exponential/multiplicative growth in power to Dark Siders... would make the Light Siders performing these fairly solid feats ****ing monsters considering the nexuses should probably drop them by the same root/divisor as the exponent/muliplier (why would the opposite side of the force suffer weaker effects, right?)

Thon on Ambria and Bastila's nigh indistinguishable showings in Battle Meditation on the Star Forge pre and post redemption come to mind

Granted, put less than 5 minutes of thought into this the other day, but eh.

Just something to spark discussion because bored.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Aurbere: All interesting thoughts. I'll get back to you soon.

Take your time. I am very curious what your thoughts and the thoughts of others will be. I've been thinking of using Bane for a vs somewhere, so I'd like to know where people really place him.

Originally posted by Aurbere
I agree with Ant here. Personally, I'm having trouble placing Bane, so seeing the thoughts of others and where they place him is a good idea.

Neph, try to calm down, please.

That's the point of the versus forum.

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Honestly feel the benefits of a nexus are over hyped tbh

They're are some fairly notable showings by Jedi on fairly potent dark side nexus that, were nexuses to give exponential/multiplicative growth in power to Dark Siders... would make the Light Siders performing these fairly solid feats ****ing monsters considering the nexuses should probably drop them by the same root/divisor as the exponent/muliplier (why would the opposite side of the force suffer weaker effects, right?)

Thon on Ambria and Bastila's nigh indistinguishable showings in Battle Meditation on the Star Forge pre and post redemption come to mind

Granted, put less than 5 minutes of thought into this the other day, but eh.

Just something to spark discussion because bored.

Fair enough. But I never really stated how much the nexus affects an individual, merely that they shouldn't be indications of power under certain circumstances. I mean, we wouldn't say Vjun Dooku is the same as the Dooku who appears in ROTS, right?

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Thon on Ambria and Bastila's nigh indistinguishable showings in Battle Meditation on the Star Forge pre and post redemption come to mindd.

Like, Exar Kun is simply unable to draw on the light side due to the nexus' of Korriban and Yavin IV - both which don't even compare to the Star Forge.

For Thon, interesting thinking. However, the feat is regarded as legendary for a reason, tbh. I also bet it took a lot of effort, energies, strain, etc to do it.