Study proves liberals have poor self control; weak minds

I'd love to see if these results are repeatable. The source, unfortunately, clearly has an agenda, so it's nigh-impossible to tell whether or not strict enough controls were in place. The final italicized lines in the OP are laughably unscientific, and belie a greater problem with the methods and intents of the study.

Originally posted by Star428
LMFAO@ any so-called "study" that "proves" atheist people are more moral than Christians when clearly it's the other way around. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire friggin' life. The "study" was obviously done by a biased immoral atheist. Atheism is the main culprit of America's decline and why we are morally bankrupt as a nation. That's a fact. [b]Period. I don't care what any idiot says. [/B]

Actually, it wasn't a single study, it was dozens, and the results were consistent over a period of decades. As far as I'm aware, none of the tests cited below were run or funded by atheists or atheistic organizations.

Enjoy:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=479017

I'm very much unconcerned by your opinion, though, because you made sweeping assumptions without doing a shred of research. It's not your theism that bugs me - everyone is and should be free to believe what they want - it's your lack of empirical scrutiny.

There are also numerous studies suggesting that increased intelligence leads to decreased religiosity. But I hate such studies, because it always feels so condescending. Stupid and brilliant people of every belief exist in spades. But the point is, stats can be used to make nearly any point. Being critical of the data, and sources, gets you closer to the truth and allows you to see the other sides of issues more clearly.

Originally posted by Robtard
Studies have shown that religious people on average are 78.5% more morally corrupt than non-religious people.

No, that's not it.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, that's not it.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
The prison population of atheists is, proportionally, absolutely tiny compared to the Christian population. And that's just one example of atheists demonstrating superior morality. I think your post is so angry and polemic because the truth hurts and you refuse to accept it.

You DO realize that the overwhelming majority of the religious prison population become religious AFTER going to prison? Lol@atheists having any kind of superior morality. Atheists have nothing other than moral relativism, which is amusing at best, destructive at worse.

Originally posted by Star428
LMFAO@ any so-called "study" that "proves" atheist people are more moral than Christians when clearly it's the other way around. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire friggin' life. The "study" was obviously done by a biased immoral atheist. Atheism is the main culprit of America's decline and why we are morally bankrupt as a nation. That's a fact. [b]Period. I don't care what any idiot says.

I suppose if you factor in ALL religions like Islam then yeah, in that case, atheists might be proven more moral but compared to just true Christians or Jews? LMAO. No way in Hell. [/B]

Lulz, because you need to be afraid of a god to be morally correct. #justreligiousthings #totesnotillogical #butyouarentafraidhowcanyoubemoral

Originally posted by Astner
Maybe because non-religious people don't have any morals to corrupt? 😂

Atheists ignore divine right, which hurt Astner's family at some point. It's all clear.

Originally posted by psmith81992
You DO realize that the overwhelming majority of the religious prison population become religious AFTER going to prison? Lol@atheists having any kind of superior morality. Atheists have nothing other than moral relativism, which is amusing at best, destructive at worse.

Burden of proof much? Or did you pull this assumption from Fox News?

Originally posted by Astner
Well. If I was morally corrupt I'd claim to be religious as well. What do they call it? A wolf in sheep's clothing?

No, that's not it.

Burden of proof much? Or did you pull this assumption from Fox News?

There's ample documentaries on prison life (the best and most comprehensive being Lock Up) that interview slews of prisoners. I've yet to find an episode where there's an interview with a criminal who was religious before prison, although I'm sure it happens. Criminals find religion in jail but religion+criminal mindset=extremism. That's why you also have satanic cults in prison. Hardly the " Hardly the argument atheists are looking for.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/25/finding-god-behind-bars-a-look-at-religion-in-american-prisons.html

http://www.nccdglobal.org/sites/default/files/publication_pdf/religion-and-prisoners.pdf

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-prisoners-less-likely-to-be-atheists/

Originally posted by psmith81992
You DO realize that the overwhelming majority of the religious prison population become religious AFTER going to prison? Lol@atheists having any kind of superior morality. Atheists have nothing other than moral relativism, which is amusing at best, destructive at worse.

👆

Originally posted by Astner
Maybe because non-religious people don't have any morals to corrupt? 😂

Exactly. Best response in entire thread. Well said, Astner. 👆

Last I checked, it's not Christians that advocate f*gg*t marriages or the murdering of unborn children.

Whoa there- holding opinions is one thing but talk like "f*gg*t marriages" is just hate speech. Cut that out.

Last I checked, it's not Christians that advocate f*gg*t marriages or the murdering of unborn children.

Originally posted by Star428
Exactly. Best response in entire thread. Well said, Astner. 👆

Last I checked, it's not Christians that advocate f*gg*t marriages or the murdering of unborn children.

WWJD?

I'm going to announce my candidacy soon. I expect all your votes! sneer

Rob, love the sig/avi set. 😂 👆

Thanks, boss

Originally posted by psmith81992
Predetermined response barring any kind of argument? Looks like MSNBC taught you well. Don't worry Janus, we're all familiar with your "boo rich and religious" people arguments. They're cute.

You're adorable. I don't watch MSNBC at all.

There's ample documentaries on prison life (the best and most comprehensive being Lock Up) that interview slews of prisoners. I've yet to find an episode where there's an interview with a criminal who was religious before prison, although I'm sure it happens. Criminals find religion in jail but religion+criminal mindset=extremism. That's why you also have satanic cults in prison. Hardly the " Hardly the argument atheists are looking for.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/25/finding-god-behind-bars-a-look-at-religion-in-american-prisons.html

We’re left with a suspicion that at least some of the religiosity—the reading of holy books, the commitment to their coreligionists, the "mastering of self"—is a function of the fact that these guys are in a place where most decisions are made for them, so faith is one decision they can make, and manipulate, for themselves.

Criminals choosing to identify with a certain religion in hopes of finding peace/absolution != atheists being the majority of criminals. Work on that evidence.

http://www.nccdglobal.org/sites/default/files/publication_pdf/religion-and-prisoners.pdf

The first part of this article flat out states that religion in institutions is limited in research, and mostly to anecdotal evidence at that. It also explicitly notes that third party observation is difficult, with wardens and counselors often unable to ascertain who is religious and who isn't; point being, this doesn't add to your argument at all.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-prisoners-less-likely-to-be-atheists/

Oi.

1. The evidence is self reported in the first 'source'.

2. The evidence only includes less than a fifth of total prisoners in the US. It's limited strictly to Federal prisoners.

3. Anyway, you’re right about religiosity in prison Caroline: Atheists are underrepresented. But not all religious groups are equally over-represented. That’s an interesting finding, but it’s a limited one because we don’t know what percentage of inmates change their faith while in prison and why — without those stats, understanding religiosity in prison is a bit of a guessing game.

Emphasis mine.

Again, where are the sources which definitively prove your assertion?

"You see, growing up where I did, mums didn’t hope as high as their kids growing up to be doctors; they just hoped their kids didn’t go to jail. So bring them up believing in God and they’ll be good and law abiding. It’s a perfect system. Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God-fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God-fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists." -R. Gervais

"You see, growing up where I did, mums didn’t hope as high as their kids growing up to be doctors; they just hoped their kids didn’t go to jail. So bring them up believing in God and they’ll be good and law abiding. It’s a perfect system. Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God-fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God-fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists." -R. Gervais

Ush, KMC's doing that thing again were it dupes you if you try and edit, but won't let you edit, not sure if you're in contact with Raz still. I'm on a PC, if that helps him figure it out.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ush, KMC's doing that thing again were it dupes you if you try and edit, but won't let you edit, not sure if you're in contact with Raz still. I'm on a PC, if that helps him figure it out.

😂

Yea that's going to happen.