Criminals choosing to identify with a certain religion in hopes of finding peace/absolution != atheists being the majority of criminals. Work on that evidence
You're adorable. I don't watch MSNBC at all.
Originally posted by Astner
Maybe because non-religious people don't have any morals to corrupt? 😂
I have a theory. Atheists don't do things because God said they were right/wrong. If they have morals, that is just who they are. But see with religion..people can get caught up into thinking they are serving a greater purpose, serving God himself. Thus, in his name, they can commit horrible atrocities and just tell themselves they are doing God's will. So they can justify doing horrible things to themselves with a lot more ease.
It's the hardcore devotion religion inspires in some people that is the true problem. This is why religion is inherently dangerous. People are willing to die and take others out with them for this. They are willing to persecute others merely because that is what their "God" preaches. Of course non-atheists can be capable of all that, but the difference is..religion has a frighteningly powerful hold on the world in terms of the influence of places like the Catholic church. Religion has far more of an impact on the world and I don't think any good they might achieve can ever outdo all the bad.
They wield far too much power and sadly there are not enough people willing to come out and call them on it. At least not enough to actually decrease the amount of influence it has by any significant degree.
Originally posted by psmith81992
I didn't say the religious weren't the majority or that atheists weren't the minority.
Originally posted by psmith81992
You DO realize that the overwhelming majority of the religious prison population become religious AFTER going to prison?
Originally posted by psmith81992
Lol@atheists having any kind of superior morality. Atheists have nothing other than moral relativism, which is amusing at best, destructive at worse.
Originally posted by Star428
Last I checked, it's not Christians that advocate f*gg*t marriages or the murdering of unborn children.
No, but you clearly said below that most religious prisoners were not religious before prison.
Odd, you just described religion too.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Look at the last link. And yea, I'm trying to find hard evidence not related to shows like lock up. Furthermore, there's no proof that the self reported "religious" were in their same spiritual predicament prior to incarceration.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Odd, doesn't look like you understand religion. Moral relativism is a set of subjective rules by people. Religion is not.Extremism exists, sure, but that doesn't reflect the majority of religious people.
I don't think most religious people are extremists. Extremists are extremists, but it still points to subjectivity.
Religious people pick and choose their morals too, or which aspects they wish to adhere to. Unless you know of a religious person who follows every tenet down to the letter of their religion?
Sounds exactly like religion, yo.
One group gets their morality from humans, the other gets it from a higher being.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Orthodox Jews follow pretty much everything. You're really trying to generalize here and it's not working. One group gets their morality from humans, the other gets it from a higher being. That's the difference, not how many rules each group adheres to.
"Pretty much" isn't everything, which would denote a picking and choosing on some level. But modern Orthodox jews call for the stoning/death of homosexuals, adulterers, rapist, bearing false witness, breaking the Sabbath etc? Hardcore.
The existence of a higher power isn't a fact, it's a belief that some people hold. What we do know, is that those Orthodox jews get said beliefs from scripture that was written (and spoken) down by another human.
Pretty much" isn't everything, which would denote a picking and choosing on some level. But modern Orthodox jews call for the stoning/death of homosexuals, adulterers, rapist, bearing false witness, breaking the Sabbath etc? Hardcore.
And yes, a lot do everything (some I know).
"My interpretation is better!" is what I assume you're going on about now. Very good.
Religious people still pick and choose their morals
So basically what I said. Anyhow. Moving on.
Already covered above, "by God" isn't a fact, it's a belief some people choose to believe in. Unless you have a way of proving the existence of god? Those morals come from the written text and spoken word of another human being (Moses, in the case of Judaism). Why am I explaining this to you about your own religion?