Yoda is better than all versions of Bane.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't really see how that matters tbh. We have no clue how involved Baras was with the Wraths training anyway.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Baras doesn't have the Sel-Makor amp he had against the Wrath, and Anakin is above the Wrath in all the relevant aspects, anyway. Baras is out of his depth against Anakin.Yoda creams this unrefined version of Bane, too. Team 2, handily.
Pfft, I didn't see that carthage had nerfed Baras. What a tool. Sure, whatever. Though Anakin isn't above the Wrath.
No he doesn't. Yoda would have serious trouble against orbalisk Bane. The only part he can damage is his head which is nearly 7 feet off the ground. Yoda's size is a serious hindrance in this case. And Bane is only unrefined by choice, he still has all the skills he learned from Kas'im, still has that "impenetrable defense" and he just chose to utilise brutish efficiency instead of pointlessly technical moves.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Seriously? You don't know how involved someone's master is in their training? Training that is confirmed stunted in game? Oookay.
The Sith Empire (And TOR in general) is more informal than that, there's other instructors and stuff. The Sith masters seem to have a less of a hands on role in teaching than in other cases. There are barely any chances for Baras to teach you anyway.
His training wasn't stunted, Baras just didn't reveal all his secrets. Which doesn't affect anything because it's not like Anakin will know Baras' secrets either. The Wrath is still as powerful and skilled as he is at any other point. It didn't give Baras an unfair advantage and if it did it ridiculous to think that it was so extreme that he wouldn't even be able to compete on the Wraths level without it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No he doesn't. Yoda would have serious trouble against orbalisk Bane. The only part he can damage is his head which is nearly 7 feet off the ground. Yoda's size is a serious hindrance in this case.
No, it's not. I'm very sure Yoda can just jump up. And hitting the joints would temporarily disable Bane at the very least.
And Bane is only unrefined by choice, he still has all the skills he learned from Kas'im, still has that "impenetrable defense" and he just chose to utilise brutish efficiency instead of pointlessly technical moves.
He's unrefined by impulse. And therein lies the problem. He has no reason to suspect Yoda would be capable of damaging him - his natural impulse is to charge at his opponents brutishly, and Yoda would be dancing around him and going for his neck.
And as solid as Bane's defense is, he's outclassed by Yoda as a swordsman, and Yoda is also faster.
Originally posted by SunRazer
No, it's not. I'm very sure Yoda can just jump up. And hitting the joints would temporarily disable Bane at the very least.
Yes, it is. Of course he can jump, but it's cumbersome and restricting. He needs to keep jumping at the same thing over and over again. It's a serious disadvantage.
Originally posted by SunRazer
He's unrefined by impulse. And therein lies the problem. He has no reason to suspect Yoda would be capable of damaging him - his natural impulse is to charge at his opponents brutishly, and Yoda would be dancing around him and going for his neck.And as solid as Bane's defense is, he's outclassed by Yoda as a swordsman, and Yoda is also faster.
He charged the Jedi Strike Team because he was really pissed off and not thinking clearly. He isn't an impulsive duelist, he's actually pretty clever. Cleverer than Yoda, arguably. He didn't charge the Sith Assassins, so its actually not his natural impulse to do so.
Bane has the orbalisks, which make up for any deficiency in his saber skills and he's as fast as Yoda is. But even if he isn't he's still got the advantage with his nigh impenetrable defenses and incredibly offense. Also I actually kind of doubt saber skill would play a big factor in the duel, Bane has no reason to fence Yoda and all Yoda can do is go for jumping attacks which don't allow for much refinement in technique.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The Sith Empire (And TOR in general) is more informal than that, there's other instructors and stuff. The Sith masters seem to have a less of a hands on role in teaching than in other cases. There are barely any chances for Baras to teach you anyway.His training wasn't stunted, Baras just didn't reveal all his secrets. Which doesn't affect anything because it's not like Anakin will know Baras' secrets either. The Wrath is still as powerful and skilled as he is at any other point. It didn't give Baras an unfair advantage and if it did it ridiculous to think that it was so extreme that he wouldn't even be able to compete on the Wraths level without it.