Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well, as great as your opinion is, to you anyway, that's not exactly how it's presented in game. Take Nox for example, Zash somehow seems to know all of Nox's weaknesses, according to super Ghost nth Great Grandad Kallig, but she's so super informal that she probably has next to nothing to do with Nox's training. I don't care how informal anything is, masters still train their apprentices. They still teach them how to fight, know them more than anyone else probably will, and still understand their techniques on the most base level. Regardless of your opinion, Baras had his eyes on the Wrath at all times, and knew him inside and out. You can deny this all you want, but that's how it's presented in game. And when you hold back on training, you're stunting. Not knowing all you can from your master is not the Sith way. And these were all apparently combat applicable given Draahg.
Well Zash was specifically preparing to defeat Nox in a fight, whereas Baras tried to off the Wrath indirectly. It makes sense for her to study Nox, she doesn't need to have spent much time training her to know that stuff. Not that I'm saying they didn't train, they probably did, even if the game never actually makes that apparent. And apprentices know their masters techniques as well, it's really not a big deal that gives anyone a sizeable advantage one way or the other. The fact that this training happens off-screen and is never actually referenced or pointed out as an advantage for Baras just further makes it out as relatively insignificant. The Wrath actually has a history of overcoming such challenges. Quinn studies him and spends considerably more time close to the Wrath than Baras did, tries to work out exactly how to beat him and the Wrath still easily surpasses his schemes and shits on his face.
And the Wrath fights and beats Draahg multiple times before fighting Baras so he probably knows what those things Baras taught him are anyway and how to overcome them.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
TOR isn't the mystical land where you somehow don't need a master because you went through the ten, at best, year process of learning the basics and fight in battles.
Tell that to the Consular. Her master is in a coma through the whole first act. And the Knight learns all of jack shit from Orgus. Their skills are learned from various instructors on Tython and in the fleets and from a vague amount of training before the game, and I think the Sith are in the same boat. There are those cutscenes where you find the training guys in the fleets and they offer to teach you about your advanced class skills.