Grandmaster Satele vs Darth Zannah

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Kinda pointless, considering literally anyone can be accused of this.

All Neph really did was bluntly argue what DMB conservatively argued. If that's actually enough for you to deem Neph retarded and DMB genuine and intelligent, than you're either really biased, really stupid, or really easy to manipulate. Probably a combination of 1 and 3, with a small bit of 2 in this specific case. This goes goes for you too, ant. Not Carthage though, since he hates all Baners equally. 👆

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Not that I consider Bane as particularly powerful as Neph or DMB persay, But the chronic lemming syndrome shtick is losing its touch. I'm seething with Internet n3rd rage.

I mean I'd remotely listen to this post if "Zannah destroys her" and "it's a close fight" meant even remotely the same thing. They just don't ❌

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Considering neither Bane or Zannah felt confident overpowering the other with TK, considering Zannah was able to erect a better defense against Bane's offense than Kas'im or Raskta Lsu, considering she has only actually taken time to charge her spell one out of the five times she used it, considering she was able to charge it while simultaneously dueling with Bane while trying to be subtle, considering she was able to do so without too much time after she gave up on subtlety, and considering the spell's performance against DOE Bane (who has substantially greater willpower than ROT or POD Bane who already has immense feats of willpower), Satele is not overpowering Zannah or slipping by her defenses with her lightsaber or the force, and she would not be able to overcome the effects of Zannah's spell. Zannah should take a solid victory here.

The constant considering's and "solid victory" don't resemble, "it's a close fight." To me, it kind of resembles, in a more conservative way:

Originally posted by Nephthys
Zannah pwns her.

It's just that Neph saying pwn is more blunt than a bunch of considering's and "solid victory." DMB saying solid is just to bar as much of the backlash as he can, which is completely understandable. This subtle yet obvious manipulation on DMB's part is somehow enough to fool you. Neph honestly just doesn't give a $hit, hence the blunt and brutally honest response, which is actually pretty admirable.

TLBNTL; DR: They're saying the same thing, slight DMB manipulation and bias against Neph keep you from seeing otherwise.

really n1qga

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ

The constant considering's and "solid victory" don't resemble, "it's a close fight." To me, it kind of resembles, in a more conservative way:

It's just that Neph saying pwn is more blunt than a bunch of considering's and "solid victory." DMB saying solid is just to bar as much of the backlash as he can, which is completely understandable. This subtle yet obvious manipulation on DMB's part is somehow enough to fool you. Neph honestly just doesn't give a $hit, hence the blunt and brutally honest response, which is actually pretty admirable.

TLBNTL; DR: They're saying the same thing, slight DMB manipulation and bias against Neph keep you from seeing otherwise.

Again, definitions. I take DMB's "solid" to mean he's convinced she will win a majority, that he would stand by his beliefs as he is convinced. Whereas Neph isn't just saying "She definitely wins", as "pwns" means she'll win easily, every time and without effort.

So no, they're not saying the same thing. I respect your attempts to defend a forum member, but at least pick one that deserves it 👆

Originally posted by |King Joker|

Originally posted by Selenial
Again, definitions. I take DMB's "solid" to mean he's convinced she will win a majority, that he would stand by his beliefs as he is convinced. Whereas Neph isn't just saying "She definitely wins", as "pwns" means she'll win easily, every time and without effort.

I'm guessing you took the TLBNTL; DR approach, considering that the whole point is that DMB conservatively saying "solid" is to bar from the backlash....kind of like the backlash Neph is getting from you and others.

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hint: even LeGenD was getting more conservative with his posts as the backlash got worse, (in recent times.)

Originally posted by Selenial
So no, they're not saying the same thing. I respect your attempts to defend a forum member, but at least pick one that deserves it 👆

You're only proving my extreme bias point. Your stance is inherently shaky enough as it is.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'm guessing you took the TLBNTL; DR approach, considering that the whole point is that DMB conservatively saying "solid" is to bar from the backlash....kind of like the backlash Neph is getting from you and others.

Spoiler:
hint: even LeGenD was getting more conservative with his posts as the backlash got worse, (in recent times.)

You're only proving my extreme bias point. Your stance is inherently shaky enough as it is.

So what you're saying is, I should just read into DMB's arguments what I want to read? To think, "oh this isn't what he means, he's just trying to tone down the wank. BURN THE UNBELIEVER"? The fact that DMB's actually toning down his bias doesn't mean we should turn around and disregard his post since "it's not what he really thinks and I know him better than that the sneaky ****"

I mean talk about inherent bias and shaky foundations.

The fact of the matter is DMB made an intelligent post and a decent conclusion whether he believes it or not, Neph made a semi retarded post justified by nothin other than his bias.

Your idea that I can't like DMB's post simply because of the arguments he's made in the past confuses me...

People make one sentence judgement calls on threads all the time. I did nothing wrong.

Originally posted by Selenial
Again, definitions. I take DMB's "solid" to mean he's convinced she will win a majority, that he would stand by his beliefs as he is convinced. Whereas Neph isn't just saying "She definitely wins", as "pwns" means she'll win easily, every time and without effort.

So no, they're not saying the same thing. I respect your attempts to defend a forum member, but at least pick one that deserves it 👆

Oh piss off. Me having a different opinion than you doesn't make me less deserving than anyone else. I stand by my point, I backed up my view when you called me on it and you're evidently completely unable or unwilling to contradict me on it. Zannah does pwn her. As everyone agree's, Zannah's mental attack isn't something Satele has the chops to repel. Meaning that Zannah can basically one-shot her. That's the definition of "pwns" to me.

Also Fated's post, which apparently blew your mind, contained blatantly incorrect information that Zannah needs to charge her spells, which has been proven false countless times. Zannah can take Satele out with as much time and effort as a Force Push.

Now lay off or I'll report you for bashing. You've already spoiled the thread with your absurd problem with me.

Originally posted by Selenial
So what you're saying is, I should just read into DMB's arguments what I want to read?

"What you want to read" is inaccurate, as that would imply predetermined bias against DMB. This is more about your bias against Neph. Notice how DMB and Neph brought up virtually the same points, it's just that Neph says pwn and DMB says solid victory. Even if taken at face value and that Neph believes more in the facts more than DMB does, hence pwn vs. solid, his argument isn't nullified. Your mudslinging screams predetermined and extreme bias.

Originally posted by Selenial
To think, "oh this isn't what he means, he's just trying to tone down the wank

The fact that DMB's actually toning down his bias

😕

Originally posted by Selenial
BURN THE UNBELIEVER"?

Believer would be more logical.

Originally posted by Selenial
doesn't mean we should turn around and disregard his post since "it's not what he really thinks and I know him better than that the sneaky ****"

Nobody said to disregard his post, which would imply deeming every single one of his points irrelevant, (kind of like you do Neph's.) It's more of understanding when someone is being conservative with their conclusions. With all the considering's, one could easily conclude that Zannah, "pwns." So quite literally, the one difference is, "solid" vs, "pwns." If DMB said the latter, would you consider him an irrational/worthless idiot who's ideas are nullified because it's him who's doing the talking?

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Kind of like your exchanges with Neph, amirite?

Originally posted by Selenial
I mean talk about inherent bias and shaky foundations.

The fact of the matter is DMB made an intelligent post and a decent conclusion whether he believes it or not, Neph made a semi retarded post justified by nothin other than his bias.

I'm not the one disregarding and demeaning someone's every post because of his high opinions of Darth Bane.

I agree with both DMB's post and conclusion, tbh. Neph saying "pwn" isn't so far out of the ballpark that everything he's said or will say are illegitimate, lol.

Originally posted by Selenial
Your idea that I can't like DMB's post simply because of the arguments he's made in the past confuses me...

No one said you can't like DMB's post for any reason. It's that Neph taking DMB's points and believing that's how Zannah can "pwn" Satele is so extremely out of the rational.

Thanks for being a bro X.

Oh piss off.

Me having a different opinion than you doesn't make me less deserving than anyone else.

a.) The opinion is made by you.
b.) Said opinion was shitty.
c.) Other opinions were non-shitty.

Let's say you have two eggs. One egg has dogshit on it, the other is a perfectly good egg.
The clean egg is clearly far more worthwhile and valuable for everyone besides the dirt.

I stand by my point, I backed up my view when you called me on it and you're evidently completely unable or unwilling to contradict me on it.

Are we really going to stoop that low to consider that as a reason?

Zannah does pwn her.

Probably not.

Now lay off or I'll report you for bashing.

You've already spoiled the thread with your absurd problem with me.

Go troll on your forum with your friends Ant. Oh wait....

#rekt'd

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thanks for being a bro X.

NP. Bane still stuck between Ahsoka/Ventress tier though.

#dattwist

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
NP. Bane still stuck between Ahsoka/Ventress tier though.

That's fine by me. Afterall, we all know Ahsoka's gonna whoop Vader's tin-can soon.

y u still in the thread