General Primary Discussion Thread

Started by Robtard212 pages
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You DO realize that the mark of a good businessman is the ability to delegate responsibilities to people smarter than him? I sincerely hope that wasn't a serious post because that's one of the reasons I like Trump over the other candidates. He realizes his weaknesses and delegates responsibilities to more qualified people.

Thank you; that's the point I was trying to make through questioning. Hillary using Bill as an advisor on the economy is just that; he's done it for eight years, she'd be foolish not to (as I noted pages ago).

Thing is, Trump bankrupting companies while [arguably] profiting isn't a positive when other people are left sporting the bill or out of a paycheck. Not sure that business acumen translates well on a country.

I'm confused. Out of the hundreds(maybe thousands) of deals he's done over his life, you're focused on a few bankruptcies? That doesn't make sense to me. If I give 100 people 20 million dollars, I'm fairly certain 99 of those people will spend that money and end up with nothing in 10-15 years, while the rest try their hand at business or the market and lose all their money. Then you'll get the one guy that turns 20 million into 1 billion. Instead of looking at how impressive that is, you're probably looking at the fact that he started with 20 million dollars, am I right?

Thank you; that's the point I was trying to make through questioning. Hillary using Bill as an advisor on the economy is just that; he's done it for eight years, she'd be foolish not to (as I noted pages ago).

It's a fair point, I guess I didn't know where you were going with that because it's illogical to criticize Trump for doing just that.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
question about Clinton, talks about trump.

Every ****ing time!

I wasn't asked a question when I responded with my questions. Do you not know the difference between a statement and a question?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I'm confused. Out of the hundreds(maybe thousands) of deals he's done over his life, you're focused on a few bankruptcies? That doesn't make sense to me. If I give 100 people 20 million dollars, I'm fairly certain 99 of those people will spend that money and end up with nothing in 10-15 years, while the rest try their hand at business or the market and lose all their money. Then you'll get the one guy that turns 20 million into 1 billion. Instead of looking at how impressive that is, you're probably looking at the fact that he started with 20 million dollars, am I right?

It's a fair point, I guess I didn't know where you were going with that because it's illogical to criticize Trump for doing just that.

They were fairly large bankruptcies, iirc. I'm also not sure his business skills transfer over well into running a country. I could be wrong and this is where he'll effing shine; but again, he doesn't inspire confidence in me.

I've no problem with presidents delegating jobs, it's normal. But I'm also not the one here flipping out over a Hillary comment for pages and pages.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not coal, that's the past. But alternatives like solar and wind.

Not a matter of how qualified she's at it, her actual willingness to do it is the concern with me. Another Hillary point is her 'closing corporate loopholes', again, all for it, just don't think she'll actually do it or she'll do it but make heavy compromises, she's big business.

Illegal immigration won't do it. I'm all for restricting outsourcing jobs though. Most if not all candidates promise to create jobs, that's just a standard talking point.

Thing is, Trump bankrupting companies while [arguably] profiting isn't a positive when other people are left sporting the bill or out of a paycheck. Not sure that business acumen translates well on a country.

So you buy his anti-immigration will solve all of America's problems rhetoric. I don't; it doesn't inspire confidence.

I prefer nuclear, solar and wind look ugly as **** and are weather dependent. Coal isn't that common anyway, biofuel and oil are more common.

I'm ok with her compromising with big business for the sake of a campaign promise. Corporate loopholes are a problem for middle class tax payers.

You don't seem to trust her at all and would rather Bill ran the economy.

Why do you trust Bill with the economy?

I find it pretty complimentary to Trump to assume he will bankrupt the entire us/world economy for profit. Would be total meme heaven! In all seriousness, he creates jobs, gets things done and everyone gets nice pay checks. I genuinely believe he will create jobs and Hilary will create welfare. This is why I support trump.

He is not anti-immigration. He is anti illegal immigration, and that is a problem economically. I'm more for his job creation and stopping overseeing of companies.

Something a corporate loophole negotiation might do.

Edit: damn your ****ing ninja edits.

Trump has the best record of creating jobs by far. He has already lived up to his promise.

Originally posted by Robtard
They were fairly large bankruptcies, iirc. I'm also not sure his business skills transfer over well into running a country. I could be wrong and this is where he'll effing shine; but again, he doesn't inspire confidence in me.

I've no problem with presidents delegating jobs, it's normal. But I'm also not the one here flipping out over a Hillary comment for pages and pages.

Fair enough

Originally posted by It's xyz!
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Edit: damn your ****ing ninja edits.

You're responding to my post 15mins after I made it, I literally can't edit and it would have edit tags if I edited after 2mins. So?

Originally posted by It's xyz!

Why do you trust Bill with the economy?

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He's the only president in the last 60 years to run a surplus

Highest jobs growth over same period of any president.

Lowest unemployment of any president since the early 70's

Inflation dropped under him
Higher GDP growth than Reagan, Nixon, either of the Bush's, Carter, Ford, Obama or Eisenhower

He did help precipitate the housing bubble though.

The page doesn't automatically refresh after you edit so when I respond, the post is different to what I'm responding to.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're responding to my post 15mins after I made it, I literally can't edit and it would have edit tags if I edited after 2mins. So?

Stop trolling and debate meh.

Originally posted by jaden101
He's the only president in the last 60 years to run a surplus

Highest jobs growth over same period of any president.

Lowest unemployment of any president since the early 70's

Inflation dropped under him
Higher GDP growth than Reagan, Nixon, either of the Bush's, Carter, Ford, Obama or Eisenhower

i believe the surplus was thanks to congress limiting his spending.

Job growth was due to the Internet job market becoming a new thing, as was the unemployment rate.

Inflation dropping isn't necessarily a good or bad thing.

Again, the higher gdp growth is likely due to the Internet.

Clinton can't create another internet. Good stats tho.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
He did help precipitate the housing bubble though.
I think this happened because W lowered the interest rates in 01 because clintons economic boom was starting to wane. The jobless recovery inflated the housing market like ****ing crazy.

Having said that, clintons economic boom didn't last very long and the combination of him and W led the US into what it is now.

Originally posted by jaden101
He's the only president in the last 60 years to run a surplus

Highest jobs growth over same period of any president.

Lowest unemployment of any president since the early 70's

Inflation dropped under him
Higher GDP growth than Reagan, Nixon, either of the Bush's, Carter, Ford, Obama or Eisenhower

All thanks to Gingrich..

Originally posted by Robtard
They were fairly large bankruptcies, iirc. I'm also not sure his business skills transfer over well into running a country. I could be wrong and this is where he'll effing shine; but again, he doesn't inspire confidence in me.

I've no problem with presidents delegating jobs, it's normal. But I'm also not the one here flipping out over a Hillary comment for pages and pages.

This type of posting is utter trash and I cant say I am surprised to see this kind of unadulterated shit posting from you, but now I really see you never have had any clue about what you are talking about.

Your lying and or being disingenuous by not telling the full story on those 4 business bankruptcies, and I take it with your "iirc" you either don't know what you are talking about and or just repeating liberal media talking points.

Instead of just repeating the same shit over and over, how about you try something new without posting links to more news links or using google to solve your problem with the lack of substance.

Your problem is you don't even know what you are talking about and have nothing new to report.

How about you do some research and find out about the 4 business bankruptcies, and figure out they were hotels and casinos hit in the recession on 2008. But I guess according to people like you is 4 businesses that had to close doors in a major recession is a slight against Trump.

So real question is what ****ing world do you live in besides this social commy one you want us all to live in with you?

He doesn't inspire confidence in you because you let Bardock and Jews form your opinion for you.

Originally posted by Robtard
They were fairly large bankruptcies, iirc. I'm also not sure his business skills transfer over well into running a country. I could be wrong and this is where he'll effing shine; but again, he doesn't inspire confidence in me.

I've no problem with presidents delegating jobs, it's normal. But I'm also not the one here flipping out over a Hillary comment for pages and pages.

Originally posted by Robtard
They were fairly large bankruptcies, iirc. I'm also not sure his business skills transfer over well into running a country. I could be wrong and this is where he'll effing shine; but again, he doesn't inspire confidence in me.

I've no problem with presidents delegating jobs, it's normal. But I'm also not the one here flipping out over a Hillary comment for pages and pages.

This post needs more words.

So Hilary inspires confidence to you. Time to hand in your man card with that one. All of her shady business deals starting with White Water, the clinton foundation and Arab dealings? Or how about her being in Big Pharmas pocket. Did you forget that the original politicians and presidents were normal citizens, and not politicians.

Of coarse you didn't. You now put all your faith in trust in the big old government.

Its interesting to watch you flip all over this race, first you were for Kasich, then Sanders, and now you finally out did yourself with Hilary. Its just sad to watch, you should really get out of political discussions cause you flip flop more then Hilary does.

Oh and a business man can't run the government? Lol but what the **** are you smoking? Your telling me career politicians in bed with corporations, oil, gas, big pharma, and every other lobbyist and special interest should run the government, but not a business man who has done well in the private sector.

Whats even funnier is if you knew anything about government, is that many government jobs now get contracted out to private companies, and guess what, the private companies pay more and do better work then the government. The world you live in where Big Govy does everything better is delusional. The fact that you think Hilary who has no clue how to run the economy, fix the middle east, or get her own health care passed, and you think she is going to be a good president is delusional. I almost believe you don't even believe the stuff you type anymore cause its pure stupidity.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
He doesn't inspire confidence in you because you let Bardock and Jews form your opinion for you.

Rob has never had an original thought on politics since he knew politics existed. He's in a 4th grade special ed class with MSNBC on all day.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Rob has never had an original thought on politics since he knew politics existed. He's in a 4th grade special ed class with MSNBC on all day.
rob strikes me as a Young Turks John Oliver type fan.

None of that mainstream news, good alternative media that is politically correct and talks about how shameful Hilary is going to be the nominee.

Also, trump has funny hair.

I mean drumpf. Hahaha.

Its interesting Rob threads the needle on funny things Trump has done 20-30 years ago, but when his Hilary basically says "I have no idea about economics, Bills in Charge."

He laughs it off and says its nothing and no big deal.

And now he will post with "But Trump or Bush did this!"

I reckon Bardock42 is going to stop lurking and try to find something to troll on.

Clintons best economic credential is her husband. This literally makes no sense. While Trump on the other hand has created jobs his entire life.

Trump also turned millions into billions and is a good friend of Bill. Probably ****ed Hilary already.

But I don't understand what Bill actually did to cause the boom in the 90s. His stats are good, but what exactly were his policies?

His policies like nafta bankrupted the middle class and millions lost their jobs. Then they could not pay their mortgage due to his lending with Barney Frank tha cuasex sub prime loans to collapse.

So basically the middle class who liked to go to trump casinos in Atlantic city could not afford to keep a roof over their head, so they stopped going to the casinos and this Trump had some casinos fail in the Great Recession.

So it's pretty much Clintons fault.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
His policies like nafta bankrupted the middle class and millions lost their jobs. Then they could not pay their mortgage due to his lending with Barney Frank tha cuasex sub prime loans to collapse.

So basically the middle class who liked to go to trump casinos in Atlantic city could not afford to keep a roof over their head, so they stopped going to the casinos and this Trump had some casinos fail in the Great Recession.

So it's pretty much Clintons fault.

okay, so nafta bankrupted the middle class and millions lost their jobs, is this 01 job losses were talking?

Clibtons economic policy caused the Donald to lose money?

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