General Primary Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He missed that😂

While telling me I'm wrong.

I did? Did you even bother to click the link?

Bankruptcy 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991

The first bankruptcy associated with Trump was perhaps the most significant in terms of his personal finances, according to news reports at the time. He funded the construction of the $1 billion Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, which opened in 1990. By 1991, the casino was nearly $3 billion in debt, while Trump had racked up nearly $900 million in personal liabilities, so the business decided to file for Chapter 11 reorganization, according to the New York Times. As a result, Trump gave up half his personal stake in the casino and sold his yacht and airline, according to the Washington Post.

Bankruptcy 2: Trump Plaza Hotel, 1992

Trump acquired the Plaza Hotel in New York for $390 million in 1988. By 1992, the hotel had accumulated $550 million in debt. As a result of the bankruptcy, in exchange for easier terms on which to pay off the debts, Trump relinquished a 49 percent stake in the Plaza to a total of six lenders, according to ABC News. Trump remained the hotel’s CEO, but it was merely a gesture -- he didn’t earn a salary and had no say in the hotel’s day-to-day operations, according to the New York Times.

Bankruptcy 3: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004

Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004 when his casinos -- including the Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Marina and Trump Plaza casinos in Atlantic City and a riverboat casino in Indiana -- had accrued an estimated $1.8 billion in debt, according to the Associated Press. Trump agreed to reduce his share in the company from 47 to 27 percent in a restructuring plan, but he was still the company’s largest single shareholder and remained in charge of its operations. Trump told the Associated Press at the time that the company represented less than 1 percent of his net worth.

Bankruptcy 4: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

Trump Entertainment Resorts -- formerly Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts -- was hit hard by the 2008 economic recession and missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment in December 2008, according to ABC News. After debating with the company’s board of directors, Trump resigned as the company’s chairman and had his corporate stake in the company reduced to 10 percent. The company continued to use Trump’s name in licensing.

Yup, there were a few. I'm not understanding why they are being pointed out though while the hundreds or thousands of successful business deals are being ignored?

Saying "he's had some blunders, but he's had far more wins" is one thing, excusing them or outright denying them all together is another. One is a sensible stance, the other isn't.

Just thought I'd post some dismantling of Trump criticisms:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Robtard
Saying "he's had some blunders, but he's had far more wins" is one thing, excusing them or outright denying them all together is another. One is a sensible stance, the other isn't.

Who is denying them? I'm not reading anyone else's crap at this point.

Originally posted by Robtard
The story is about "four bankruptcies" and it goes on to note each bankruptcy.

Copy/Pasted from the site:

Bankruptcy 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991

The first bankruptcy associated with Trump was perhaps the most significant in terms of his personal finances, according to news reports at the time. He funded the construction of the $1 billion Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, which opened in 1990. By 1991, the casino was nearly $3 billion in debt, while Trump had racked up nearly $900 million in personal liabilities, so the business decided to file for Chapter 11 reorganization, according to the New York Times. As a result, Trump gave up half his personal stake in the casino and sold his yacht and airline, according to the Washington Post.

Bankruptcy 2: Trump Plaza Hotel, 1992

Trump acquired the Plaza Hotel in New York for $390 million in 1988. By 1992, the hotel had accumulated $550 million in debt. As a result of the bankruptcy, in exchange for easier terms on which to pay off the debts, Trump relinquished a 49 percent stake in the Plaza to a total of six lenders, according to ABC News. Trump remained the hotel’s CEO, but it was merely a gesture -- he didn’t earn a salary and had no say in the hotel’s day-to-day operations, according to the New York Times.

Bankruptcy 3: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004

Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004 when his casinos -- including the Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Marina and Trump Plaza casinos in Atlantic City and a riverboat casino in Indiana -- had accrued an estimated $1.8 billion in debt, according to the Associated Press. Trump agreed to reduce his share in the company from 47 to 27 percent in a restructuring plan, but he was still the company’s largest single shareholder and remained in charge of its operations. Trump told the Associated Press at the time that the company represented less than 1 percent of his net worth.

Bankruptcy 4: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

Trump Entertainment Resorts -- formerly Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts -- was hit hard by the 2008 economic recession and missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment in December 2008, according to ABC News. After debating with the company’s board of directors, Trump resigned as the company’s chairman and had his corporate stake in the company reduced to 10 percent. The company continued to use Trump’s name in licensing.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
The first 3 weren't bankruptcies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html

Not sure how much this means since it's a fox news poll but the numbers are turning around for Trump and have been for a while. What started as a war for the Republican nomination while the Democrats were united has made a 180 degree turn (even though we know Hilary is going to win the nomination). It's amazing that Trump's numbers keep trending up while Hilary's are trending down.

Originally posted by It's xyz!

Rob missed the part where he claimed he had 4 bankrupcys and he now is ignoring he only had one and it was during the Great Recession.

He's basically trying to lie now and avoid the topic.

Another thing to note is many great companies are still great companies like GM, United, American Airlines and many more because bankrupcys saved them.

He just forgets and doesn't care that our actual government is bankrupt.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yup, there were a few. I'm not understanding why they are being pointed out though while the hundreds or thousands of successful business deals are being ignored?

He's trying to play games as usual. Liberal smear tactics.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
She said she can't.

"Bill is in charge."

Originally posted by It's xyz!
She did when she said Bill will be in charge.

When asked how she sees her husband's role:

"I hope he'll have a lot of involvement in starting the economy to really take off. He's a great adviser, and he knows as much about the economy and job creation as anyone I could talk to. I'm going to put him in charge of revitalizing the economy, 'cause you know he knows how to do it."

Originally posted by It's xyz!
What makes Bill qualified to run the us economy?

The fact that he has already done it successfully for eight years.

I'm wondering if Hillary's decline in the polls are due to the fact she's sort of having to fend off Trump & Sanders at the same time.

Either way, I'm really not that confident she'll be able to win the general at this rate.

Hilary won't get the nomination if we give our college money to Our greatest ally who says black people are poor and need our help. If only they were smart like us and voted for a kike.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html

Not sure how much this means since it's a fox news poll but the numbers are turning around for Trump and have been for a while. What started as a war for the Republican nomination while the Democrats were united has made a 180 degree turn (even though we know Hilary is going to win the nomination). It's amazing that Trump's numbers keep trending up while Hilary's are trending down.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
When asked how she sees her husband's role:

"I hope he'll have a lot of involvement in starting the economy to really take off. He's a great adviser, and he knows as much about the economy and job creation as anyone I could talk to. I'm going to put him in charge of revitalizing the economy, 'cause you know he knows how to do it."

The fact that he has already done it successfully for eight years.

What are your measures of success with regard to Bill's first two terms?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The fact that he has already done it successfully for eight years.

By this logic Bill Clinton should of been able to run for an infinite amount of terms as president as long as he keeps that economy booming.

Plus why not just make Bill president then? I'm serious. If people are going to be saying "well she should rely on him because he did all this good shit as president" then lets just cut out the middle man, or middle woman in this case. Why the f*ck is Hilary even needed then? She's not well liked, people do not trust her, etc.

It's almost like she'll have two vice presidents if she wins.

The fact that he has already done it successfully for eight years.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323477604579000571334113350

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
When asked how she sees her husband's role:

"I hope he'll have a lot of involvement in starting the economy to really take off. He

The fact that he has already done it successfully for eight years.

Is Bill an elected official to run the economy?

No. He is the president that caused 9/11, caused the sub prime collapse by letting Barney Frank issue all those high risk loans, and he signed NAFTA.

You do know that these lies like you and the Clinton perpetuate, people have woken up to them right? You can keep telling everyone here and in real life that Clinton are angels and saviors, but we all know the truth, Hilary destroyed 4 middle east countries with her foreign policy, she lost 4 Americans and was asleep, she lied to the family, she had an un secured server that a Romanian hacked and is now in FBI custody.

Every single thing you have been defending has been exposed as a lie, and you are just pushing and perpetuating lies because you are a liar and will go to no end to defend your stupid democratic party.

Hence Trump and Sanders Destroying the American Political leftist system.

Adam BTFO!

You guys, you beautiful guys.

Seriously though, having Bill Clinton over Melanie Trump as First Lady? Da fuq?

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Adam BTFO!

You guys, you beautiful guys.

Seriously though, having Bill Clinton over Melanie Trump as First Lady? Da fuq?

Its pretty crazy that all these feminists want a rapist and sex abuser rather then Melanie, they can't even keep their ideologies in order cause they are always conflicting. Thanks for thinking of this.

The correct First Lady

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473980/Thick-skinned-Melania-Trump-claims-Donald-NEVER-fight-20-year-relationship-reveals-plans-perfectionist-Lady.html

I guess Adam wants to look at this every day.

Bill cheated on his wife. This is perfect First Lady material.