General Primary Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
They were counting people that showed up, not people that actually caucused. The video shows her doing it. It's blatant cheating.
"So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side they're sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 O'Malley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clinton's vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillary's team didn't take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasn't an accurate count."

Yeah, I read that, but the maths adds up. 3 people left so there were only 456 left. And voters for O'Malley or who were undecided had to decide between Clinton and Sanders.

Of the 34 people who voted for O'Malley or were undecided 3 left, 22 voted for Clinton and 9 voted for Sanders. 3 + 22 + 9 = 34. So it adds up correctly.

She didn't do a full recount...they just added new people who joined for the second vote. That's against the rules.

Sanders won this and should not have to split delegates.

Bill looked awful last night standing behind Hilary.

Mouth open, staring into no where, drooling, hands shaking, prolly wearing depends and the dementia will be announced soon.

Then you had Hilary screaming and screeching like a seagul about a .2% difference in the vote😂

Your Clinton hate is most impressive

Lol look at this bullshit!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02

She won in 6 coin tosses!??

She lost this and they are trying to steal it from Bernie.

Rob you are so in denial.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lol look at this bullshit!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02

She won in 6 coin tosses!??

She lost this and they are trying to steal it from Bernie.

Rob you are so in denial.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lol look at this bullshit!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02

She won in 6 coin tosses!??

She lost this and they are trying to steal it from Bernie.

Rob you are so in denial.

What am I denying now? My comment was towards your rant on Bill.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's unlikely, but coin tosses can be like that sometimes. There was a 0.015625 chance of it happening, a little better than a 1 in a 100 chance, which is a slim chance, but not impossibly so.

So it was a double sided coin.

She cheated.

The Republican Party is now the diversity party.

The democrats have none.

The democrats put a black-man in office and there's a good chance the first female president will be from the Dems, so they have that "diversity" going for them.

Nope, he's half white. Carson is all black.

But I understand you can't stay in current events and you always need to go back 8-16 years in the past to find relevance.

The Republicans are winning in diversity.

2 Hispanics
1 Black
1 Female
2 Non Politicians.

This Trumps the dems "diversity."

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Nope, he's half white. Carson is all black.

But I understand you can't stay in current events and you always need to go back 8-16 years in the past to find relevance.

The Republicans are winning in diversity.

2 Hispanics
1 Black
1 Female
2 Non Politicians.

This Trumps the dems "diversity."

He identifies as black and society by-and-large sees him as black.

Not current you say:
[list]
[*]Obama's presidency is a current event, as he's currently still the POTUS.

[*]Clinton's bid is a current event, as she's currently the only female running who has a chance in her party

[*]Sanders' bid is a current event, as he's currently the only Jewish person to have a chance in his party[/list]

Carson and Fiorina never really had a chance in the party. Strange you include Cruz when he's half Hispanic/Latino and you just tried to take away Obama's black-card because of his mixed background.

edit: So the Dem's were fist to elect a black President and if either Hillary or Sanders win, they'll have the first female or first Jew. Diversity, in the bag.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The Republican Party is now the diversity party.

The democrats have none.

looooool

Explain who is diverse in the democrats?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/breakdown-114th-congress-demographics-gender

Seriously, everyone knows that the Republican Party is the party of crusty old white guys

So why is there two Hispanics and a black man, woman and 2 non politicians?

I suggest we all ready from here:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Democratic_Party.htm

Discusses the political positions of the Democratic party.

Then we can read from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States)

Then maybe progress from there to here to discover some of the infighting of the Democratic party:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-primary_us_56aa4c4be4b00164892297e7

The democrats are not as unified as some American democrats would have you believe.

But neither is the GOP. There are some very liberal Republicans in Congress. To use myself as an example, someone could probably define me as a socially liberal Republican (not a contradiction).

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So why is there two Hispanics and a black man, woman and 2 non politicians?

Of note, who's been leading pretty much for months and months on the Rep side? Answer: A crusty old white guy

Who's that, certainly you can't be talking about Trump. Sanders would be considered the crusty old white guy. And I don't appreciate your baiting racism speech. Don't do it again..