Originally posted by abhilegend
It's funny how you think your excuses are "explaining".
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm quoting the same comic dude. It's plainly explained that lightning was fused in his cells.
Translation - I've learned to harness lightning because we share the same cells.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sites like Marvunapp flat out States that Thor was unable to beat Nobilus on his own and that's why he listed the help of Loki..
facepalm
For one, marvunapp is unofficial. Although it may provide a better background on many of Marvel's characters, it is an unofficial site.
And again I'm tired of walking you through everything like a 3 yr old. Thor was weakened as per the comic and he stated that his team "were outnumbered many times over by a determined foe". He even went on to say, "Even so, I could never have forced myself to flee if I did not believe I knew how to defeat the force arrayed against us".
In the end Thor's action of getting help was useful. For one it gave him time to regain his strength from being weakened because of his ordeal with Don Blake(stated in comic), and Loki "deflected/absorbed" Nobilus's "magic force"(also stated in the comic).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Warlock is a proven hero? What does that has to do with anything? Warlock isn't even class 100 in that version and got his shit kicked in by Hercules. I like how quoting one of two showings of Nobilus is lowballing.
Now let's play dumb and go to your level . Your own unofficial link states that he is a class 100 brick that has all the superhuman speed, durability, and agility of Thor citing the fact that he is a clone of Thor.
😂
Now what other reason than to lowball did you bring up his encounter with Adam Warlock? Pathetic.
What you're doing is searching, trying, and reaching for every which way to invalidate Thor's showing against Nobilus. First by claiming that Loki weakened Nobilus with the use of an unofficial reference and now by trying to put Nobilus in any bad light you can find.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, and ignore everything else.Nope, it never works that way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He fought Thor for one page in Thor 423. That's nothing at all.Keep making excuses. I'm going to wait for another 50 pages I think.
I'll see just how far are you going to take the last word here.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Who's making excuses here?
You, of course.
Smh... Lightning is not fused in his cells.
Nobilus - "I have harnessed the lightning since last we met because your spirit is in my very cells."Translation - I've learned to harness lightning because we share the same cells.
Hahaha, what? Do you even read what you posted?
For one, marvunapp is unofficial. Although it may provide a better background on many of Marvel's characters, it is an unofficial site.
It's still better than your excuses. "Waah, Thor beat him alone, waah".
And again I'm tired of walking you through everything like a 3 yr old. Thor was weakened as per the comic and he stated that his team "were outnumbered many times over by a determined foe". He even went on to say, "Even so, I could never have forced myself to flee if I did not believe I knew how to defeat the force arrayed against us".
Yes, after he got his ass handed to him. Somehow that always escapes you.
In the end Thor's action of getting help was useful. For one it gave him time to regain his strength from being weakened because of his ordeal with Don Blake(stated in comic), and Loki "deflected/absorbed" Nobilus's "magic force"(also stated in the comic).
Which weakened him and allowed Thor to beat him. It wasn't a win against a legit Herald. Nobilus isn't a Herald anyway.
That he's a proven hero and at times defeat even physically superior foes. What's hard to understand?
Which Herald he beat in pure physical combat?
Now let's play dumb and go to your level . Your own unofficial link states that he is a class 100 brick that has all the superhuman speed, durability, and agility of Thor citing the fact that he is a clone of Thor.
Then it also shows that Thor was unable to beat him on his own.
😂
Accept both then.
Now what other reason than to lowball did you bring up his encounter with Adam Warlock? Pathetic.
Hahaha, now anything that doesn't wanks Thor is lowballing.
What you're doing is searching, trying, and reaching for every which way to invalidate Thor's showing against Nobilus. First by claiming that Loki weakened Nobilus with the use of an unofficial reference and now by trying to put Nobilus in any bad light you can find.
crylaugh
The tears are delicious at this point.
Cry more.
Already showed tremendous skill showings and battle showings against very powerful individuals. The fact that you are going to your usual tactics of smokescreens and lowballing indicate desperation.
Pathetic.
You showed nothing but your whining and bitching and moaning at your inability to post Thor beating a single Herald in h2h.
In 40 pages.
It's worse than pathetic. It's simply humiliating for every Thor fan out there.
Superman still beats him 10/10 here.
Not a single win for Thor here.
😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
You, of course.Hahaha, what? Do you even read what you posted?
It's still better than your excuses. "Waah, Thor beat him alone, waah".
Yes, after he got his ass handed to him. Somehow that always escapes you.
Which weakened him and allowed Thor to beat him. It wasn't a win against a legit Herald. Nobilus isn't a Herald anyway.
Which Herald he beat in pure physical combat?
Then it also shows that Thor was unable to beat him on his own.
😂
Accept both then.
Hahaha, now anything that doesn't wanks Thor is lowballing.
crylaugh
The tears are delicious at this point.
Cry more.
You showed nothing but your whining and bitching and moaning at your inability to post Thor beating a single Herald in h2h.
In 40 pages.
It's worse than pathetic. It's simply humiliating for every Thor fan out there.
Superman still beats him 10/10 here.
Not a single win for Thor here.
😂
Every single answer you gave here smells of full on evasion. Sad really...
🙁
Originally posted by abhilegend
You showed nothing but your whining and bitching and moaning at your inability to post Thor beating a single Herald in h2h.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted.Superman wins 10/10.
Not even counting some of your more ridiculous counters, you keep contradicting yourself at every turn. Frankly it's getting quote embarrassing. You went as far as to post the tier list yet you either failed to read the post itself or you are completely ignoring who's listed.
Here's the list again.
Tier 3 - Herald
High
Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Dr. Strange (classic), Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Swamp Thing, Talisman, Thor, Zoom II (Hunter Solomon)
Middle
Adam Warlock, Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Circe, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Juggernaut (Classic), Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Solomon Grundy, Supergirl, Supreme, Terrax the Tamer, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman
Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Aquaman (DCNU), Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Doctor Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi), Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Forerunner, Gammid, Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hercules (Immortal), Iceman, Invincible, Iron Man, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Kalibak, Kang, Krypto, Lightray, Living Monolith, Loki (Ultimate), Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto (U), Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nimrod, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Power Girl, Prime, Professor X, Raven, Ravenous, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Starman, Super Skrull, Stryfe, Superboy, Tempest, Thor (Ultimate), Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel
Tier 2 - Meta
High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Gamora, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Karate Kid, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Spiral, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
It's like you have you Superfan blinders on 24/7... I mean come on, I posted 3 battles with Loki in which he was amped all 3 times. I posted Man-Beast(Karnivore), Adam Warlock, and Juggy(minus shield).. Even the one vs Ares he was 3x more powerful with Pluto's amp and he's already considered right below herald at high meta. What more do you want?
For good measure here's his fight with Gilgamesh who is already considered low herald. This version was massively amped by The One Above All. He fights Thor evenly until he gets knocked the eff out when Thor loses his hammer.
http://i.imgur.com/xnt44Cf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YQvC6Im.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DA48usy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iKrI3no.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/svr9OHv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FIOBR5u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jJJUMdy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VE4WmYL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w3QaqnA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DaZXpct.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KgI9ILS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zNOAqhy.jpg
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not even counting some of your more ridiculous counters, you keep contradicting yourself at every turn. Frankly it's getting quote embarrassing. You went as far as to post the tier list yet you either failed to read the post itself or you are completely ignoring who's listed.Here's the list again.
Nah, embarrassing is what you're trying to do here. Trying to get the last word here. It's really pathetic at this point.
It's like you have you Superfan blinders on 24/7... I mean come on, I posted 3 battles with Loki in which he was amped all 3 times. I posted Man-Beast(Karnivore), Adam Warlock, and Juggy(minus shield).. Even the one vs Ares he was 3x more powerful with Pluto's amp and he's already considered right below herald at high meta. What more do you want?
You posted Thor not beating Loki any time. When he had Dormammu amp, he lost the power. Second time Thor pounded on Loki a dozen times and he still wasn't koed. Adam Warlock is a mid Herald. Him isn't. Juggy isn't a mid Herald without his invulnerability.
Man Beast has done nothing to be that high.
Ares was powered up to Thor's level but Thor used his hammer.
Again.
For good measure here's his fight with Gilgamesh who is already considered low herald. This version was massively amped by The One Above All. He fights Thor evenly until he gets knocked the eff out when Thor loses his hammer.
http://i.imgur.com/xnt44Cf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YQvC6Im.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DA48usy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iKrI3no.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/svr9OHv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FIOBR5u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jJJUMdy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VE4WmYL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w3QaqnA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DaZXpct.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KgI9ILS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zNOAqhy.jpg
Yeah, Thor used mjolnir nearly entirely time and was refreshed by lightning in celestial mothership while Gilgamesh wasn't.
You don't know what h2h means, do you?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, embarrassing is what you're trying to do here. Trying to get the last word here. It's really pathetic at this point.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You posted Thor not beating Loki any time. When he had Dormammu amp, he lost the power. Second time Thor pounded on Loki a dozen times and he still wasn't koed. Adam Warlock is a mid Herald. Him isn't. Juggy isn't a mid Herald without his invulnerability.
Originally posted by Mr Master
================================Fenris the Wolf and amped Loki (literally simultaneously) vs Thor (no mjolnir)
"Still the mighty Thor, even without the hammer."
Loki was "losing" Dormammu's power. He had not lost it fully when their fight began. Seriously man you have to learn to read.
As for the other fight Loki stated that with his armor of invincibility, he was now "stronger" than Thor. Pretty clear the writer is making it known to the reader that the armor was supposed to bump Loki up a couple notches. It was called the "armor of invincibility" for crying out loud.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Knocks out Loki who still had a portion of Dormammu's power.
http://i.imgur.com/qlN6bk2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2LRzRRy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wpi6unP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a10KNsK.jpgBeats down Loki and crushes his magical armor of invincibility with his bare hands.
http://i.imgur.com/60ianhR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oOjbhbF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NIc8hxl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wWasvEJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GTInrCH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Cxb2oKy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aVQrbI5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cvLTtZv.jpg
Adam is Him. Him is Adam... I mean really?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Beats the shiet out of a version of Adam Warlock that was a physical powerhouse.
http://i.imgur.com/nbECY24.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wqq3Lm7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MoTgVMh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NELa07j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zbusQPm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HGtMaLg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FwyxLNY.jpg
Juggy without his shield is still powerful as phukk no matter what you say. A severely depowered Juggernaut was still able to hold his own for a time against King Hyperion.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Beats down Juggernaut after his shield is removed.
http://i.imgur.com/yEzJUNQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6yl8rO6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MuA4ad9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ri6NdKq.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Man Beast has done nothing to be that high.Ares was powered up to Thor's level but Thor used his hammer.
Again.
Yeah, Thor used mjolnir nearly entirely time and was refreshed by lightning in celestial mothership while Gilgamesh wasn't.
You don't know what h2h means, do you?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Beats the shiet out Man-Beast who has tangled with Adam Warlock and the Hulk. He's also seen here wrecking High Evolutionary and easily tearing his armor.
http://i.imgur.com/W8rZpGd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oNIjZcE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5qcJGD5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zTScj8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JlhP7Q0.jpg
Ares even without Pluto's 3x amp has tangled with heralds. Here he has such a powerful amp and Thor knocks him out. Ares having his sword makes Thor having Mjolnir fair game. And yet in the end Thor finally puts him to bed with his "other hammer".
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor vs Ares(received a 3x amp from Pluto). Thor knocks him the phukk out with a punch.
http://i.imgur.com/7XoPVK6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XUK3xO5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hX4TQJ5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/inObJaj.jpg
And in the case of Thor vs Gilgamesh, Gil was already a class 100 powerhouse who was massively amped by The One Above All. He fought Thor evenly until the end where Thor pounded him to sleep with nothing but his bare hands. What's hard to understand?
It's sad that you have a ridiculous counter lowball for each example I've given. You come here with you usual "haha what?", then follow it up with either a lowball explanation or a low showing in hopes to put each one in a bad light. What you can't get your mind to accept is that these showings are not an indictment on Thor's opponents, but rather they are clear examples of Thor's skill and physicality among his peers.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not really. Just exposing peeps...
😂
You're just exposing yourself.
Actually one Mr. M posted. That's an amped Loki with a nearly Mjolnir like weapon. On top of that he's also beating the fur out of Fenris with a similar weapon making the feat that much more impressive.
You still haven't explained how those fake mjolnir amped anybody physically.
And he pounded on both of them with neither of them being koed.
Bill later killed same Fenris with three hits.
Loki was "losing" Dormammu's power. He had not lost it fully when their fight began. Seriously man you have to learn to read.
And he overpowered Thor while he had that power. Thor only beat him when he lost that power.
As for the other fight Loki stated that with his armor of invincibility, he was now "stronger" than Thor.
He can claim anything he wants. Doesn't makes it true.
Pretty clear the writer is making it known to the reader that the armor was supposed to bump Loki up a couple notches. It was called the "armor of invincibility" for crying out loud.
crylaugh
Is this for real? I guess Iron man is indeed Invincible. His name is after all Invincible Iron Man.
Adam is Him. Him is Adam... I mean really?
Nope, Adam Warlock goes through several incarnations. Quantum magic anyone?
Juggy without his shield is still powerful as phukk no matter what you say. A severely depowered Juggernaut was still able to hold his own for a time against King Hyperion.
Juggy was without his invulnerability. Not without his shield.
Thor unable to KO him after pounding him for a full minute is just lulzworthy.
Lol..
Tearing apart High Evolutionary with ease was quite convincing. He's also tangled in the past with Hulk, Adam Warlock, Iron Man, Thor...
And got his ass handed to him by Spidey and Logan.
Ares even without Pluto's 3x amp has tangled with heralds. Here he has such a powerful amp and Thor knocks him out.
Which shows the writer had very low regard for Ares.
It's a low feat for Ares rather than a high feat for Thor.
Ares having his sword makes Thor having Mjolnir fair game. And yet in the end Thor finally puts him to bed with his "other hammer".
It's invalid for a h2h thread.
And in the case of Thor vs Gilgamesh, Gil was already a class 100 powerhouse who was massively amped by The One Above All. He fought Thor evenly until the end where Thor pounded him to sleep with nothing but his bare hands. What's hard to understand?
Hahaha, the sheer denial is palpable.
Thor used mjolnir for most of the fight. Unless you think Mjolnir did no damage to Gilgamesh, it's again invalid here.
It's sad that you have a ridiculous counter lowball for each example I've given. You come here with you usual "haha what?", then follow it up with either a lowball explanation or a low showing in hopes to put each one in a bad light. What you can't get your mind to accept is that these showings are not an indictment on Thor's opponents, but rather they are clear examples of Thor's skill and physicality among his peers.
It's not my fault that Thor doesn't has a single win against a Herald in pure h2h.
baka
Originally posted by burrrrrr
Superman wins more often than not. He's marginally stronger and tougher but definately faster. Thor could pull out 2 wins but it would be very difficult.
Correction: he's far stronger and Thor cannot win even a single time. Superman can overpower Thors superiors with one arm.
Originally posted by panthergod
Feel free to dispute this.Superman has two shotted characters far above Thor and overpowered characters well above With a single arm on three separate occaisions.
Superman is stronger than Thanos, let alone Thor.
What character has he two shotted that is far above Thor?
