Originally posted by The Merchant
Nai in orbit of Da Soocha V Palpatine made that Force Storm that consumed the rebel Fleet and was going to destroy the Pinnacle Moon base while he was in the Eclipse. There's no proof that the Eclipse is a Nexus of any kind either.
You're correct. Had a completely different part of the DE plot in mind, when thinking about Byss.
Originally posted by The Merchant
Speaking of that, I recently saw the Ziost stuff. What was so great about him? He basically started off as a small presence when he was a spirit, and needed to possess soldiers and stuff so they can start killing off a bunch of people on Ziost so he could feed from their deaths and yeah he took over some Jedi commandos or whatever but he needed to like, do that to them unconscious IIRC. I guess eventually with all that energy he fed and the energies on Ziost he was able to do what he did on Nathema? But not as badly? Am I missing something? Cause yeah, barring making Monoliths I wasn't all that impressed.
Well.
As you've mentioned: He starts off as a mere presence, goes on possessing a shitload of people simultaneously and despite all efforts against him, he still manages to cause drain the entire planet in the matter of...hours? A day maybe?
Is it impressive? That's debateable, actually.
Consider this: Vitiate was controlling at least dozens of individuals, who acted in a coordinated fashion. He was acting through them rather than just giving them some ideas and letting them act those out, as he probably did with Revan and Malak. I consider it quite impressive, at least on an intellectual scale, to "steer" that many bodies around. That some of them were Jedi doesn't make the act of controlling them less impressive.
And then, despite the effort all people on Ziost go through: Vitiate just doesn't care. I mean. You kill people on the planet, take some of them out carefully not to feed the Emperor. You devise a plan to stop him, electrocuting all his "puppets" and you defeat him in combat. And then he comes visit you, going "Yup. Nice work. Totally worthless, but it was fun." and continues with his plan anyway.
Also I'm not certain that the "drain" he used was the same ritual he used on Nathema. Not only had it different effects (e.g. the Force still being present on the planet), it also was happening pretty "fast" after the Emperor contacts the respective Imp/Rep Player working against him. After all, they didn't manage to evacuate more than a fraction of the inhabitants before it happened. And if it was just some planet scale "force drain" happening, that seems to be more impressive than the ritual alternative - which would still be nothing that can just be ignored.
Well, evacuating even a fraction of an entire planetary population is going to take some time.
But even ignoring that, I was under the impression that Vitiate had been preparing to feed on Ziost the entire time, not conveniently as it began happening.
I would also dare to say that the Ziost arc was more than a day long.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, evacuating even a fraction of an entire planetary population is going to take some time.
You are aware of the fact, that there are planets in the SWU that have populations not bigger than those of very small cities (e.g. Tatooine with its 40,000 inhabitants)? And you shouldn't forget that there was a full-scale Republic invasion going on, featuring ships that could have been used to evacuate citizens. Just think about the amount of people that one can fit into those capital ships...
And then, this is the SW universe, where they are shipping oceans worth of water to Coruscant, to keep the population of 1 trillion beings alive, just as an example. Just think of the transport capabilities needed to construct something like the Death Star.
But even ignoring that, I was under the impression that Vitiate had been preparing to feed on Ziost the entire time, not conveniently as it began happening.
He needed a certain amount of power to be able to feed on Ziost and he was attempting to get that through his action on the planet. It seems rather absurd, that he would not fire his "planet drain" in the same second it was ready, but instead "toy around" with the player characters.
I would also dare to say that the Ziost arc was more than a day long.
Even that would be quite quick from "mere presence in the force" to "I drained the planet".