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Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, Wolverine had quite a bit of trouble with some random samurai yakuza or whatnot. I believe if you hive Bourne a decent weapn he'd give Wolverine one hell of a fight. Making him fight h2h os just cruel though.
Wolverine who had no healing factor and was slowly dying from metal poisoning and increasing injuries had trouble with highly trained, modern day samurai assassins. He waded through Yakuza quite easily(the train fight). And even then, he was strong enough to pull like 12+ fully grown men along with him despite being littered with their poisoned arrows.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
You know, I thought an office building would give Bourne plenty of weapons. Broken glass shards, pens, books, tables, paper weights, computer keyboards and monitors, tube-lights, lot of lethal items there.
In recent years, Logan has consistently been shown to tank bullets like they are little better than paintballs, used his body as a friggin' human shield during a nuclear explosion, and when Shingen stabbed him multiple times with a katana it did little more than piss him off. Do you really think keyboards, pens and paperweights are going to faze him? Those items might potentially be lethal to regular humans but to Logan they would be little more than a minor inconvenience.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
What if it was made pure h2h and Wolverine has no healing factor but adamantium skeleton?
Unless Bourne's fists are harder than the Blob's head I don't know how on earth he is going to do any notable damage to Logan, even without a healing factor. On the flip side, Logan only needs to land a few solid hits to start causing major damage. Logan can hit hard enough to KO Creed with one good shot, so he can definitely KO Bourne.
Make it bone claw Logan and give Bourne a bladed weapon and then it becomes a better fight.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I have to disagree. If it was pure h2h with no HF for Logan then he'd end up with dislocated limbs, a crushed windpipe and gouged eye balls adamantium skeleton or no.
Well, gonna have to agree to disagree. Maybe Logan as he was portrayed earlier in the films, but his skill levels have improved as the films have progressed. He went from getting wailed on by fodder in that cage, in X1, to being able to throw it down with guys like Shingen by the time of The Wolverine. I personally struggle to see Bourne beating him in H2H. Remember, Logan is still a lot stronger and more durable than Jason is, even without the healing factor, and he isn't so slow and unskilled that Bourne can just dance around him. But eh, that's my personal opinion on the matter.
Bourne can't dislocate Logan's limbs bone-claw or Adamantium. The damage he's tanked in both forms would have made it happen if it was going to happen. Like going full speed on a motorcycle and digging his claws into the ground to make a u-turn. Or flying past a bullet train and jamming his claws into the roof to stop himself.
Even as bone-claw his fight with Sabretooth in the lumber yard would have separated something considering how much stronger he is than Bourne.
Also yeah Logan has fought guys far more skilled and physically capable than Bourne. Deadpool, Sabretooth, Deathstryke, Shingen, Silver Samurai, etc...
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, gonna have to agree to disagree. Maybe Logan as he was portrayed earlier in the films, but his skill levels have improved as the films have progressed. He went from getting wailed on by fodder in that cage, in X1, to being able to throw it down with guys like Shingen by the time of The Wolverine. I personally struggle to see Bourne beating him in H2H. Remember, Logan is still a lot stronger and more durable than Jason is, even without the healing factor, and he isn't so slow and unskilled that Bourne can just dance around him. But eh, that's my personal opinion on the matter.
Well you can't simply discount Wolverine's earlier feats and concentrate on his highest end feats.
For all of his supposed strength, humans were able to block his claw swipes with a katana.
Him being tough is a result of his HF. Without it he'll be able to tank injuries about as much as a tough human.
Besides, strength won't matter when there's such a huge discrepancy in h2h skill. How's his strength going to help him when he gets a knife chop against is throat?
Originally posted by FrothByte Well you can't simply discount Wolverine's earlier feats and concentrate on his highest end feats.
Originally posted by FrothByte For all of his supposed strength, humans were able to block his claw swipes with a katana.
Originally posted by FrothByte Him being tough is a result of his HF. Without it he'll be able to tank injuries about as much as a tough human.
Originally posted by FrothByte Besides, strength won't matter when there's such a huge discrepancy in h2h skill.
Originally posted by FrothByte How's his strength going to help him when he gets a knife chop against is throat?