Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
😂Good one. The lowball crew is never far away.
Maybe it has a lot to do with people being unable to truly judge power levels. I mean there are people out there that actually think that the Green Scar was actually the same level as a High Herald, despite context saying otherwise. Sound familiar Prof?
Originally posted by Stoic
Maybe it has a lot to do with people being unable to truly judge power levels. I mean there are people out there that actually think that the Green Scar was actually the same level as a High Herald, despite context saying otherwise. Sound familiar Prof?
Lol...even though you have a good point. Let's not talk about it here. Don't want to see the thread get closed.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk doesn't have "default" strength, he gets angry, he lifts/smashes it so that's a pointless distinction to make.
Hulk's canon clearly indicates he has default strength.
If this weren't the case he would annihilate opponents like Thing, Namor, and Thor upon the initial confrontation.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Hulk's canon clearly indicates he has default strength.If this weren't the case he would annihilate opponents like Thing, Namor, and Thor upon the initial confrontation.
I agree with this. He has been stated for years he has a calm (default) strength. the angrier he get the stronger he gets. So he has to have a base strength.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Hulk's canon clearly indicates he has default strength.If this weren't the case he would annihilate opponents like Thing, Namor, and Thor upon the initial confrontation.
Banner prevents him from doing this. If Hulk had default strength, people like Thing, Namor, and Thor would annihilate him. Banner hold back Hulk power.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The King of Canon respects NO RULES that go against my infallible interpretation of comics.
Well if it helps I somewhat agree with you, and have argued this in the past, but under forum rules, the Hulk begins combat sufficiently pissed. This means that he comes in at a high level of power. WW Hulk was different though, as he could control his strength level due to the training that he underwent on Sakaar. Rules are rules though, and the Hulk like Superman is often written to be strong enough to handle any strength task set before him. Just look at what he did to Onslaught. Arguing that he has trouble with guys like the Thing becomes a non point when considering that confrontation. That wasn't even the Hulk at his highest levels either.
Originally posted by Surtur
Isn't this the same board that people say we don't argue power sets, and yet Hulk gets granted an automatic angry state of mind despite not walking around 24/7 super angry?
Well technically it depends on the Hulk. Savage Hulk had to maintain a constant piss off (to a certain degree) in order to remain Hulked up. Doc Green not so much, Green Scar was able to control his strength level due to meditation. Some people may believe that we don't argue power set but that's not true. We should always argue power set while also backing it up by feats, and even collateral damage. After all, if a guy can throw a sedan to the moon, it kind of gives us the idea that they're pretty strong. One more thing, character has to also fit into the equation, because the Hulk isn't a murderer, while Maestro is.
Originally posted by Surtur
But I always hear people saying about certain characters "oh so and so never does that" and it's not in regard to "this person won't kill" but more like "this person just won't use this strategy". It's come up in numerous Silver Surfer fights.
Well that's character. Superman doesn't always fly in and drill his opponent in the head with 200 punches per second even if he can. He simply doesn't fight in that manner. It's CIS that limits the character not power set. I mean Superman can fly, but this does not mean that he's always zipping around at light speed. The Surfer could have opened a black hole up inside of the Rhino's melon, but he isn't a murderer, so again CIS comes into play.