College Class geared towards 9/11 sympathizers

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College Class geared towards 9/11 sympathizers

None of the assigned readings view attacks from perspective of Sept. 11 victims’ families

An English class offered at UNC Chapel Hill this fall called “Literature of 9/11” explores the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks from the perspective of radical Islamists and those who view America as an imperialist nation.

The reading assignments for the class, which includes poems, memoirs and graphic novels, present terrorists in a sympathetic light and American political leaders as greedy, war hungry and corrupt, according to a review by The College Fix.

The readings mostly focus on justifying the actions of terrorists – painting them as fighting against an American regime, or mistaken idealists, or good people just trying to do what they deem right. None of the readings assigned in the freshman seminar present the Sept. 11 attacks from the perspective of those who died or from American families who lost loved ones.

UNCSept11“ENGL 72: Literature of 9/11” is taught by Neel Ahuja, an associate professor of English, comparative literature, and geography at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

“Neel grew up in Topeka, Kansas. He studied transnational cultural studies at the University of California, San Diego and gender studies at Northwestern University, where he was a student organizer and labor solidarity activist,” according to his online faculty bio.

Ahuja did not respond to several emails from The College Fix seeking comment. Jim Gregory, UNC’s director of media relations, said in a telephone interview that the university does not have an official stance on the class.

First-year seminars are often esoteric in nature, and typically hone in on narrow and unique topics. They are meant to introduce new students to college-level courses, and “offer an introduction to the intellectual life of the university and focus on how scholars pose problems, discover truths, resolve controversies, and evaluate knowledge,” UNC’s website states.

Other seminars this fall at UNC include designing robots with Legos, the relationship between humans and animals, race and ethnic relations in the U.S., and even animals in Japanese folklore.

As for “Literature of 9/11,” its online description states it aims to “explore representations of the 9/11 attacks and their aftermath in literature and popular culture.”

To that end, the class covers a wide variety of readings, according to a list detailed by the campus bookstore’s website.

In the Shadow of No Towers by Speigelman

Poems from Guantanamo: Detainees Speak by Falkoff

Reluctant Fundamentalist by Hamid

Sand Opera by Metres

Sirens of Baghdad (Trans Cullen) by Khadra

Stuff Happens by Hare

In the Shadow of No Towers is a collection of 9/11 comics by celebrated graphic artist Art Speigelman, who witnessed the attacks from his home in lower Manhattan. None of his family died in the attack, but Speigelman told Democracy Now he felt anger at how the incident was turned into a patriotic rallying cry, and his Towers work is an extension of those emotions.

The horrors his family survived that morning “were only the beginning for Spiegelman, as his anguish was quickly displaced by fury at the U.S. government, which shamelessly co-opted the events for its own preconceived agenda,” according to the book’s Amazon description.

Poems from Guantanamo: Detainees Speak is a collection of poems penned by Guantanamo detainees; The Reluctant Fundamentalist is the fictional tale of a successful Pakistani in America who gradually comes to believe America is imperialistic and evil; Sand Opera is a collection of poems on torture, race and war; The Sirens of Baghdad is a thriller depicting a good man turning into a terrorist; and Stuff Happens – taking a line from Donald Rumsfeld – is an anti-war, anti-government, anti-military play that mixes fact with fiction in its dramatic interpretation of the decision to invade Iraq.

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According to the course’s online description, “following an introduction to the concept of terrorism and to the production of knowledge about political violence in the fields of law, politics, religious studies, and terrorism studies, we will explore a diverse array of themes related to the 9/11 attacks and the ‘war on terror’ as depicted in memoirs, poetry, novels, public art, graphic novels, film, and music: explanations of the causes and consequences of political violence; the role of religion in public culture and state institutions; national security discourse; mourning, trauma, and public memorials; depictions of the US military in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan; and the perspectives of detainees and minority communities on the attacks and their aftermath.”

According to Ahuja’s Blinkness rating page – which is similar to Rate My Professors but specific to Chapel Hill – he seems to be popular with his students, and received generally positive reviews. However, several students also warned not to disagree with Ahuja, especially in a graded assignment.

An online database of professor salaries maintained by the News & Observer states Ahuja’s annual salary is $72,100.

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23978/

So..

If people want to waste money on electives, they should have the right to do so

They can take whatever classes they want, spend their money on dumb stuff. It tells us who the idiots are doesn't it?

They can try to paint terrorists in sympathetic ways, but it doesn't change the reality that those terrorists are cowardly pieces of shit.

While this course likely has too much of an agenda, attempting to understand extremism isn't the same as agreeing with it. Conflating the two is potentially as dangerous as the idiots who made it necessary about a decade ago to explicitly state you were "for the troops" even if you were against the war. Even with this post, there's a chance I'll be labeled a sympathizer or something equally ridiculous, when of course that isn't the case.

Perhaps even if this course is ill advised, and if the OP isn't reporting anything false, it certainly IS ill advised and could be balanced much better, the takeaway could be that applying broad villainous labels is self serving. Even with unequivocally evil acts, there exist cultural forces behind them that can help us to better understand the nature of the conflict. Because approaching a topic from the opposing perspective can be a valuable exercise, but only if it's kept in the proper perspective.

I would wonder though about the opposite type of class, one geared towards just bashing terrorism etc. would go over? Or maybe they already exist.

I'm sure they do.

It might not be explicitly stated on the course catalog, but the practice of professors pushing their agendas through their courses is very much alive and well. So yeah, I'm sure something like that exists. To a certain extent, I don't mind it, because it creates a marketplace of ideas even if the courses themselves aren't unbiased. But I think critical thinking courses should be mandatory before being exposed to such an environment. Many aren't prepared intellectually even if they're intelligent. An insulated community during childhood can easily eliminate the need to develop such skills.

Know your enemy - Sun Tzu.

Originally posted by Surtur
I would wonder though about the opposite type of class, one geared towards just bashing terrorism etc. would go over? Or maybe they already exist.

To be fair, that is already embedded in our culture. It's not really an unrepresented viewpoint. I also doubt we'd learn much, since terrorism is obviously a shitty thing. There's not much else to say other than "well, that sucked."

This course appears to search for a solution, and understanding the motivation of the "bad guys" helps.

Originally posted by Surtur
I would wonder though about the opposite type of class, one geared towards just bashing terrorism etc. would go over? Or maybe they already exist.

It's called life.

Okay, so what about a nazi sympathizer class? Or the KKK? Though I'm sure these exist as well.

Originally posted by StyleTime
This course appears to search for a solution, and understanding the motivation of the "bad guys" helps.

Why does understanding the motivation help? There is no magical revelation they can drop to change much of anything. I'm sure they could rattle off a cornucopia of excuses: religion, shitty conditions in their shithole countries, etc. Would this stuff make you go "oh I get it now" next time one of these pieces of shit flies a plane into a building or walks into a crowded area and blows themselves up?

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, so what about a nazi sympathizer class? Or the KKK? Though I'm sure these exist as well.

Why does understanding the motivation help? There is no magical revelation they can drop to change much of anything. I'm sure they could rattle off a cornucopia of excuses: religion, shitty conditions in their shithole countries, etc. Would this stuff make you go "oh I get it now" next time one of these pieces of shit flies a plane into a building or walks into a crowded area and blows themselves up?


I think the point would be to understand that these people are human, not cartoon villains, and also perhaps to put into relief one's own strange or poorly-formed beliefs. To wit, if you can understand why a 9/11 hijacker might have come to believe in a heavenly reward for killing thousands of people, you might better understand how you could also come to believe something similarly ridiculous if circumstances are right.

I think a class about how the Nazi party gained traction in Germany would be incredibly useful. Too many people believe that Nazisim was something inherent to Germany, rather than a kind of virulent belief system that could arise in just about any nation under the right circumstances.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think the point would be to understand that these people are human, not cartoon villains, and also perhaps to put into relief one's own strange or poorly-formed beliefs. To wit, if you can understand why a 9/11 hijacker might have come to believe in a heavenly reward for killing thousands of people, you might better understand how you could also come to believe something similarly ridiculous if circumstances are right.

I think a class about how the Nazi party gained traction in Germany would be incredibly useful. Too many people believe that Nazisim was something inherent to Germany, rather than a kind of virulent belief system that could arise in just about any nation under the right circumstances.

“To understand is to forgive.”

And that is entirely the problem. Unless of course, you can totally understand reasons for terrorism or mass murder and still have the testicular fortitude not to forgive it. And there's no need for a class on the Nazi party, just watch World at War or Evolution of Evil on the history/military channels. Those two programs are as comprehensive as it gets.

"To understand is to forgive" is a ridiculous statement. It's like saying "To own a car is to own a boat."

Of course I can understand the motives behind 9/11 without forgiving them...I'm capable of reason. 😐

Psmith, have you ever heard of the Third Wave experiment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave

Originally posted by Omega Vision
"To understand is to forgive" is a ridiculous statement. It's like saying "To own a car is to own a boat."

Of course I can understand the motives behind 9/11 without forgiving them...I'm capable of reason. 😐

Psmith, have you ever heard of the Third Wave experiment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave

Yes, I've heard of it. Incredibly interesting. And I disagree with your notion that the statement is ridiculous, because I would argue that if people were to understand reasons for actions, they are more likely to forgive that action or at the very least, feel sympathetic.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Yes, I've heard of it. Incredibly interesting. And I disagree with your notion that the statement is ridiculous, because I would argue that if people were to understand reasons for actions, they are more likely to forgive that action or at the very least, feel sympathetic.

Understanding why millions of Germans felt the need to support a program like National Socialism and turn a blind eye to the sufferings of minorities in the name of prosperity and national pride is important because people have to understand that these aren't impulses specific to one time or place. It could happen in America--not today, not tomorrow, probably not in 10 years, but it could happen if the country becomes desperate. I'd never accuse Donald Trump or his supporters of being fascist in any way, but a slogan like "Make America Great Again" taps into the same kind of visceral populism that propelled Nazism to power in Germany. Someone similar to Trump but with more radical social beliefs could use his same strategy to possibly turn America into a fascist state at some point in the future.

A class about Nazism wouldn't be an examination of why Nazis were so evil because that wouldn't teach anyone anything. It would more likely be about how tapping into "good" things like patriotism, a sense of community, desire for more organization, a stronger economy, and an assertive foreign policy can allow the wrong people to get to power and can spiral out of control.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Understanding why millions of Germans felt the need to support a program like National Socialism and turn a blind eye to the sufferings of minorities in the name of prosperity and national pride is important because people have to understand that these aren't impulses specific to one time or place. It could happen in America--not today, not tomorrow, probably not in 10 years, but it could happen if the country becomes desperate. I'd never accuse Donald Trump or his supporters of being fascist in any way, but a slogan like "Make America Great Again" taps into the same kind of visceral populism that propelled Nazism to power in Germany.

A class about Nazism wouldn't be an examination of why Nazis were so evil because that wouldn't teach anyone anything. It would more likely be about how tapping into "good" things like patriotism, a sense of community, desire for more organization, a stronger economy, and an assertive foreign policy can allow the wrong people to get to power and can spiral out of control.

But that would be missing the point of the Nazis' true intentions. Why the millions of Germans (non nazis) felt the need to support such a program and why the Nazis did present two very different ideological reasons.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think the point would be to understand that these people are human, not cartoon villains, and also perhaps to put into relief one's own strange or poorly-formed beliefs. To wit, if you can understand why a 9/11 hijacker might have come to believe in a heavenly reward for killing thousands of people, you might better understand how you could also come to believe something similarly ridiculous if circumstances are right.

I think a class about how the Nazi party gained traction in Germany would be incredibly useful. Too many people believe that Nazisim was something inherent to Germany, rather than a kind of virulent belief system that could arise in just about any nation under the right circumstances.

But shit like "they did it for their God" is known by people, this isn't something you need to take a class for.

I don't think anyone thinks they are cartoon villains, cartoon villains tend to not overwhelmingly be pieces of shit most of the time.

What reasons do you think people in this country assume these terrorists are doing this for? Most people I know..know they aren't doing it just for the hell of it. They always have some kind of cause their sick little minds latch onto.

You say they are human, but I disagree. For me, being human is more then just a physical thing, more then just DNA. On the outside they appear human, on the inside though they are far from it.

As for the nazi thing, ah but that isn't what I said: I wasn't talking about how the Nazi's came to power or why they gained traction, but specifically a class sympathizing with them. In other words, a class going into detail on why they had such a hate hard on for the jews..with examples with stuff jews have done in the past that made Nazi's hate them so much.

I am curious about one thing, out of the total population of Germany at the time..do you know what percentage were Nazi's?

But shit like "they did it for their God" is known by people, this isn't something you need to take a class for.

Nazism wasn't religious in any way. They made a few mention of God being Aryan but that wasn't even perverting Christianity, it was completely making up something new.

I was talking about these terrorists. I'd be surprised at anyone in this country who didn't know how huge a factor religion plays.