College Class geared towards 9/11 sympathizers

Started by Bentley2 pages
Originally posted by Surtur
You say they are human, but I disagree. For me, being human is more then just a physical thing, more then just DNA. On the outside they appear human, on the inside though they are far from it.

That's kind of the point of contention, if they became inhuman, you can figure out that they were human, because nazis weren't born like handicapped or alien children. Hence, it makes sense for humans to resist and to model the inhuman, just like we make model for atomic explosions without becoming a frigging bomb.

There is no doubt they were born human, but some kind of metamorphosis took place during their lifetime that turned them into fanatics.

Anyways my point in asking what percentage of the German population were nazi's was to point out..how much utter destruction and mayhem even a small portion of people can cause. Since you know you always hear that religious extremists only make up a small percentage of people who follow that religion.

Germany had..what, 70 million people at the time? The number of nazi's was under 10 million IIRC.

I really want to check out Art Spiegelman's "In the Shadow of No Towers" sounds really interesting.

Originally posted by Surtur
There is no doubt they were born human, but some kind of metamorphosis took place during their lifetime that turned them into fanatics.

Anyways my point in asking what percentage of the German population were nazi's was to point out..how much utter destruction and mayhem even a small portion of people can cause. Since you know you always hear that religious extremists only make up a small percentage of people who follow that religion.

Disastrous economy, hyperinflation, hitler youth program? Any of that ring a bell? Wasn't hard really.

I never said it was hard to figure out...just that I'm aware they weren't born Chaotic Evil or anything.

Originally posted by Surtur
Anyways my point in asking what percentage of the German population were nazi's was to point out..how much utter destruction and mayhem even a small portion of people can cause. Since you know you always hear that religious extremists only make up a small percentage of people who follow that religion.

Technically a religion doesn't work exactly like a country. Germany used taxes that came from all kinds of business to fuel an army that went to attack the whole continent. Religions are just traditions and they aren't centralized by definition.

If we take the example of Islam, they aren't centralized at all.

However, I agree that nefarious beliefs are like an infection and once they are sizeable enough, they can damage an otherwise healthy population.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why does understanding the motivation help? There is no magical revelation they can drop to change much of anything. I'm sure they could rattle off a cornucopia of excuses: religion, shitty conditions in their shithole countries, etc. Would this stuff make you go "oh I get it now" next time one of these pieces of shit flies a plane into a building or walks into a crowded area and blows themselves up?

It's not about introducing a magic antidote to terrorism. It's about raising a generation of critical thinkers who are equipped to avoid problems like this. As much as we'd like to believe otherwise, terroristic groups don't form in a vacuum. They often spring up, at least partially, in response to the conflicts started by western involvement there. Osama/Al-Qaeda's whole story spiraled out of what was basically a Cold War era fight(we were actually on Osama's side back then), granted that was instigated by Soviet aggression. A good deal of ISIL/ISIS's bullshit came out of the Iraq invasion.

The students in college now will run things some day, it's best they understand the full story. Might avoid some future tragedies.