Originally posted by Star428
🙄No, I meant exactly what I said. I'm not an idiot like the majority of libtards are on this site. I know damn well when someone is displaying a condescending attitude towards me. Probably half the people on my ignore list are there because of that. Unfortunately, Digi can't be ignored by using the convenient ignore function so I have to ignore him the old fashioned way. Which is harder and annoying but well worth it.
Though for me I hope we could still use this to try to get as much religious influence out of the government as we can. This is why I've said we don't need any mention of God on our currency or anything like that.
This also plays into my main problem with religion in that I find it's nearly impossible for most people to keep their religious beliefs separate from their job. Which is fine if you are working at McDonald's or something, but if you're holding public office..not so much.
Originally posted by Star428
I have no doubt Christianity is on the decline. That's one of primary reasons why our nation has fallen so far and not only from a morality standpoint either. Also, it's a clear sign that we are living in last days because the decline (along with persecution of Christians) was propheseid in the Bible. So believers rejoice at this news because they know it means we are getting close to the time when Christ will return. 🙂
Your yearning for death and the end of the world makes me sick.
But he also said we are getting close to a time when "Christ returns" which sounds like the end of days to me.
All I can say is, meh: if the world is going to end soon then the religious decline is a good thing. Means we put up with just a little less BS before the end. Now if only this "end time decline" could last like a billion years. I mean if God is real he is immortal, so his concepts of time might be different, to him a couple thousand years might be a short amount of time.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
The Bible mentions a great apostasy, or falling away from the truth at the end of the age. That may be what Star was addressing.
I got that feeling as well. What I find disturbingly strange, is that this was something that was written about long ago, and no matter how it happened, it is happening. I realize that this is about the decline of Christianity in America, but what about the ripple effect of the decline in other countries? The internet has in fact made the world smaller in terms of communications as we all know. So other than by choice to not believe in Christianity, we also have people forcibly being told to leave their beliefs, or die for them. Could the opinions outside of America contribute to this decline, when it is within our nature to be influenced by popular concepts? Just something to think about I guess.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yep and the internet has made it possible for people to quite easily find out about shady things that have been done in the name of religion. Whereas in the past those in power might of been able to keep this information on the down low.
I couldn't agree more with you on that, as long as we separate what one person believes to be correct vs with what is actually written within the bible. After all, I could work for a company, and still break every rule in that same company. I'd technically still be with that company until I was found guilty for breaking all of it's rules. However, I would make for a very poor representative of that company. Would you agree?
Originally posted by psmith81992
But who cares about the shadyness of atheism? You get the same shadyness with secularism, just another way to justify actions. There's no reason to single out religion here aside from hypocrisy.
You seem to think whenever someone says something negative about religion it is saying religion is the only thing that does those things. You ask who cares about the shadiness of atheism, but I don't think there is shadiness in the way you are talking about.
I'm hard pressed to think of any major things done specifically in the name of atheism. Horrid stuff done in the name of something other then religion? Absolutely, but specifically doing something because you feel there is no God? Eh, how often? Just because a person does something bad and might also happen to be an atheist doesn't mean they did that bad thing due to their atheism. Same with religious folk, I'm sure there are a variety of people belonging to various religions in prison who did not commit their crimes specifically because/for religion.
This is a thread about the decline of a certain religion, so discussing religion(good or bad aspects) would be things you'd expect people to focus on.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I seem to remember you being unable to back this up.
I seem to remember nobody was able to back up their claim that religion has done far worse. And I did back it up. All you need is to mention Stalin, Pot, and Mao, and you have more deaths than the entirety of the crusades and that's without including hitler.