Cliton Staffer Prepares to take the Fifth
Clinto staffer who set up her servers plans to take the fifth to his up coming questioning.
Huge news
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-email-staffer-subpoenaed-plans-plead-the-fifth
Cliton Staffer Prepares to take the Fifth
Clinto staffer who set up her servers plans to take the fifth to his up coming questioning.
Huge news
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-email-staffer-subpoenaed-plans-plead-the-fifth
Originally posted by Surtur
So if nothing shady went down why is this guy pleading the fifth? You'd kinda sorta maybe think if nothing shady went down they'd want to get that information out there.
Because it's his right as an American.
But you can also just read the article:
"“Although multiple legal experts agree there is no evidence of criminal activity, it is certainly understandable that this witness’ attorneys advised him to assert his Fifth Amendment rights,†said the Benghazi Committee’s top Democrat, Rep. Elijah Cummings.
Cummings went on to suggest that Republicans’ asserts that Clinton had committed a crime could have lead Pagliano’s attorney to advise against testimony. “Their insatiable desire to derail Secretary Clinton’s presidential campaign at all costs has real consequences for any serious congressional effort,†Cummings said."
Basically, Republicans are so hostile, and have made it such a political issue, that the only prudent legal move for him was to plead the fifth.
But again: if nothing shady went down wouldn't they want to get that out there?
EDIT: The reason given seems like a cop out. If they have nothing to hide they have nothing to hide. People are going to see this and think they have something to hide.
So the guy can't tell the truth, but not because anything shady went down..but just those gosh darn republicans.
Originally posted by Surtur
But again: if nothing shady went down wouldn't they want to get that out there?EDIT: The reason given seems like a cop out. If they have nothing to hide they have nothing to hide. People are going to see this and think they have something to hide.
So the guy can't tell the truth, but not because anything shady went down..but just those gosh darn republicans.
Yes, he can't tell the truth because the political atmosphere is such that Republicans will take anything and try to spin it against him to get to Clinton. Better not say anything at all. It's a perfectly valid legal strategy, your constitution gives it to all Americans as a right...
You can be easily wrongfully committed for things, to play it safe does not imply that anything illegal happened.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, and I'm telling you that just sounds like an excuse. "I can't tell the truth, but not because I did anything wrong..but those damn republicans".Sounds like a cop out whether it is true or not.
Do you not think that the political climate currently is such that Republicans are extremely desperate to get dirt on Clinton?
Problem with not giving any info is..now we don't know what it is one way or the other. When you don't give people all the information they tend to just fill in the blanks themselves. How can we be sure nothing shady was done if her staffer is going to dodge the questions and blame it all on the republicans?
So instead of the republicans twisting this into something shady..the lack of any explanation does that instead.
As an accomplished eLawyer, this is the best legal strategy atm.
Sure, as you noted, taking the 5th will make some people automatically assume the worst. But it's likely less worse/damaging than him telling the truth and it being spun into the dirt.
It's basically taking the least damaging option out of two damaging options.
Originally posted by Surtur
Problem with not giving any info is..now we don't know what it is one way or the other. When you don't give people all the information they tend to just fill in the blanks themselves. How can we be sure nothing shady was done if her staffer is going to dodge the questions and blame it all on the republicans?So instead of the republicans twisting this into something shady..the lack of any explanation does that instead.
If you were stopped by the police and hadn't done anything wrong would you exercise your right not to answer questions or submit to a search and ask if you were free to go?
Giving away your rights when you've done nothing wrong is a slippery slope
Originally posted by Bardock42
Basically, Republicans are so hostile, and have made it such a political issue, that the only prudent legal move for him was to plead the fifth.
Seeing Clinton's National Security violation (not necessarily illegal depending on what actually happened but we won't know that because it was wiped which doesn't look bad at all), corruptions, and inappropriate actions in a powerful government office is just a petty election ploy?
It seems very serious. The simple existence of a "private server" is a problem, alone. But what happened and how she handled the fallout make it much worse.
I'm not part of a "GOP campaign against Hillary Clinton." Since I support Sanders for president, this is hardly an issue of me being anti-Dem. I just think Clinton is an atrocious person.
What does Snowden think of the Hillary Clinton case?
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/03/edward-snowden-hillary-clinton-email-server
“This is a problem,†Snowden said, “because anyone who has the clearances that the secretary of state has, or the director of any top-level agency has, knows how classified information should be handled.â€
He added: “If an ordinary worker at the State Department or the CIA … were sending details about the security of embassies, which is alleged to be in her email, meetings with private government officials, foreign government officials and the statements that were made to them in confidence over unclassified email systems, they would not only lose their jobs and lose their clearance, they would very likely face prosecution for it.â€
Of course, I think I'm every bit as professionally qualified (perhaps more so) than Snowden to speak on this matter. But people seem to think he's a god to speak on digital information and cyber security. So enjoy his perspective which "strangely" matches mine.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Basically, Republicans are so hostile, and have made it such a political issue, that the only prudent legal move for him was to plead the fifth.
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Complete bs.
The FBI under Obama is conducting the investigation, wake up. He wants this, and so does Valerie.