you don't have to be right wing to realize that clinton and her goons are looking shady as **** over this email shit
at best you have a case of "we didn't have a law restricting her reckless behavior at the time"
at worst you have her covering some shit up by wiping that server. like really... all laws and technicalities aside: you receive inquiries about the contents of a server from the govt... and your instinct is well lets wipe it clean and give it to them? that doesn't sound like a criminal move to you?
i even get pleading the fifth... that's a legal/political strategy. but what kind of reasoning goes into wiping a server before turning it into the state for evidence other than to cover something up?
honestly.... there are some cases where one party makes up a bunch of bullshit about a figurehead of the other side just out of tribal loyalty... but im tired of the assumption that if you criticize this woman you're some kind of republican... or maybe even a misogynist... or both. all this chick does is hide behind political shields like that all day long. if this country weren't so bitterly divided and blinded by partisan politics, and she was just some average joe schmoe on judge judy or something this ***** would get a scolding and a guilty sentence for her blatant obstruction of justice.
Originally posted by red g jacks
you don't have to be right wing to realize that clinton and her goons are looking shady as **** over this email shitat best you have a case of "we didn't have a law restricting her reckless behavior at the time"
I do agree that the smear campaign has been pretty effective. But we'll see how she comes out at the end.
at worst you have her covering some shit up by wiping that server. like really... all laws and technicalities aside: you receive inquiries about the contents of a server from the govt... and your instinct is well lets wipe it clean and give it to them? that doesn't sound like a criminal move to you?
Originally posted by red g jacks
i even get pleading the fifth... that's a legal/political strategy. but what kind of reasoning goes into wiping a server before turning it into the state for evidence other than to cover something up?
No, not at all, I'd do that immediately. The government has no right to my private emails.
Originally posted by red g jacks
honestly.... there are some cases where one party makes up a bunch of bullshit about a figurehead of the other side just out of tribal loyalty... but im tired of the assumption that if you criticize this woman you're some kind of republican... or maybe even a misogynist... or both. all this chick does is hide behind political shields like that all day long. if this country weren't so bitterly divided and blinded by partisan politics, and she was just some average joe schmoe on judge judy or something this ***** would get a scolding and a guilty sentence for her blatant obstruction of justice.
You probably shouldn't double down on misogynist code when talking about how you aren't. Additionally before your last paragraph it did seem like you were making good points, but now you are just repeating the propaganda again blindly "we know nothing but she's guilty, she'd be found guilty already if she wasn't a politician, rargh....!!"
well when you're right, you're right, bardock42. i can now see the folly of my ways. let me offer my apology for calling into question the character our dear leader. hillary [email protected] is a gentleman and a scholar.
Originally posted by psmith81992
You don't think there will be some sort of indictment?
It strikes me as unlikely.
Really, if she'd acted quicker in responding when this first came out, I doubt we'd still be talking about it, but while Hillary is willing to do gray-zone stuff occasionally, she is aware she often gets the microscope pointed at her and is unlikely to have done anything seriously bad.
Originally posted by Bardock42yea that was a lazy early morning half assed post before i went to work, i didn't really have time to sit down and type out a reply. just a bit of humor really.
Yeah, because saying we should wait for actual evidence and not jump to conclusions like you did, is basically like making Hillary Clinton the head of a communist dictatorship...
i don't think i've made any truly wild speculations. yes i know my posts on killermovies.com are not admissible evidence in court. must we really stick to such sterile legalese laden discourse when it's just two random people talking about shit on the internet?
with regard to saying that if she were not hillary clinton the political machine then she wouldn't be granted as much leeway as she has been so far... and i'll go ahead and admit that's speculation on my part. i still think it's true though.
other than that all i did was comment on the kind of image her/her team's behavior conveys. particularly with wiping the server... which only really seems to serve as an obstruction of the investigation. if she wants to claim privacy issues then maybe don't mesh your private emails with your work emails knowing that the govt has certain standards in terms of record keeping.
plus they say they turned over the emails in paper form so the privacy angle goes right out the window... it just seems like they were trying to make it a little more difficult to sort through. i can't imagine what other purpose they would have to wipe the server clean before turning it in. yes i know this technically doesn't prove any wrongdoing... i'm not making a legal case against the woman i'm just reading the situation how i see it.
So here is this:
An "intelligence review" says there was highly classified information in two emails. Hilary says nothing was classified.
So someone has to be lying.
Or neither could be lying, could be that Hillary didn't know the information was "highly classified", could be that the information was labeled "highly classified" after the fact/later date. Could be a few other things I imagine without there being a liar.
But as the story went on to point out: "At this time, any conclusion about the classification of the documents in question would be premature."
Originally posted by Surtur
If it was labeled classified after she saw it that would be one thing. If it was labeled that way prior to it and Hilary just..missed that, well, that is a big problem.
Your article also points out that different intelligence agencies classify things differently. So it is perfectly possible that say the CIA says this is unclassified information, but the NSA says it is classified.
Originally posted by Robtard
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, how long do you think it will be for the Right to not give two shits about Emailgate?Question to everyone.
Or, to say it more plainly, about as long as it took for people to forget about that terrible movie, Only God Forgives.
On the real though, I think as long as Hillary tries to have a public life there will be Republicans touting emailgate. Unless something juicier comes along.
Pretty much as soon as she doesn't get the nomination people will move on. I would think the only people trying to keep this story alive are doing it so she doesn't get the nomination..which their job is done once that happens. It's doubtful we'll ever see Hilary in the White House if she doesn't get this nomination.
whats somewhat funny to me is the assumption that right wingers are more interested in hillary not getting the nomination than left wingers are
i consider myself leftist but if hillary gets the nomination i wouldn't vote for her... not over the email shit just cause i don't like her. so i hope this email shit does ruin her so we can get a better candidate (sanders) in there to go against trump.
Originally posted by red g jacks
whats somewhat funny to me is the assumption that right wingers are more interested in hillary not getting the nomination than left wingers arei consider myself leftist but if hillary gets the nomination i wouldn't vote for her... not over the email shit just cause i don't like her. so i hope this email shit does ruin her so we can get a better candidate (sanders) in there to go against trump.
Would you just not vote then?